2009 Yamaha Tmax 500!

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by rs-mn, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Probably the roller weights, but I wouldn't buy anything but original belt and weights, but do a research on Dr Pulley sliders.

    I just put them in my scoot and can't believe manufacturers still aren't
    using them as OEM part.
  2. Paul Mihalka

    Paul Mihalka Old Fart

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    Thanks for pointing me toward the Burgman, but my questions are specifically about the Tmax. Why: Opportunity of getting one with known history and good price - I work (yes - still) at a BMW/Yamaha (and HD/Ducati) dealer and owning a in-house brand is good - by all reports and tests the Tmax is the best handling most motorcycle like among the maxi-scooters. Riding comfort I'll decide at the first test ride. Storage capacity I can manage. I would love to travel with only a toothbrush and a credit card. So I would really like to hear about Tmax long distance capability, any maintenance needs on a loooong trip, any known "will stop you" problems, possible life past 100K miles. Thanks up front.
  3. Cortez

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    Just buy it, you won't be sorry, and you should know a lot more about that
    bike considering your job then most people here. If it had 10hp more, it would
    be a perfect bike.

    But in all honesty, it's like a VFR800 or a ST4 or a Futura in the bike world,
    and you're more likely to like a ST1300 / FJR1300 / Connie 14 etc.
  4. sraber

    sraber Been here awhile

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    Paul, I think you would be most happy with the Tmax. It feels more like a motorcycle than any scooter I have ever tried. I have often thought about trading in my bikes for a step through design. Though I have no experience with the bike, I would definitely buy one if I could find a good deal. Buy it and tell us how it works as a tourer. :D
  5. soboy

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    Paul, I have a Tmax and I have been riding motorcycles since 1972. I am very happy with my Tmax, which I bought after a bad back injury and a recurring hand injury forced me to sell my motorcycles. The Tmax feels very sporty, it is a lot of fun in the twisties - it handles as a good sporting motorcycle should, it is comfortable and well made. I am averaging 56 mpg which is pretty good. If I were going to tour, however, my first choice would be a Burgman 650, which I have also ridden. The Burgman feels larger and more appliance-like, but still fun to ride. The Burgman is a bit quicker but the Tmax handles better. The Burgman has more mass, more displacement, better wind protection and more under seat storage. All good features for touring. Obviously, one can tour on a Tmax (and I may just do that with mine). Known Tmax issues - mirror outer stalks crack (and Yamaha replaces under warranty) and fuel pump hiccups (ditto).
  6. Tacoma

    Tacoma Been here awhile

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    The used value of the Tmax just went up, now my 09 Tmax is worth more than what I paid for it, I got it new in 2010 for a discount cause it was a new last years model. Yamaha isnt offering the 2012 Tmax so everybody is looking for the used ones. I have my 09 Tmax for sale with 3500 miles with Givi windscreen and rear rack and topcase for $7000 and the best offer i recieved so far was $5800. I explained to the people interested in it that I love my Tmax sooo much it would take that money for me to part with it. I don't know if I will get that much for it, but i don't care if do sell it or not, just taking a wait and see. Told them they could wait next year for the 2013 Tmax for $9000 or they can spend $10,000 for the Suzuki Burgman or Honda Silver Wing!
    also,,, I have learned from bad experiences in the past not to brag about my Tmax, I really don't care what anybody else says or thinks about it becaue they were never on one, all I care about is me and the Tmax I own pleases me very, very, very much. So if you think you are a hotshot and impress all your friends cause you blew a Tmax off the road with your crotch rocket I don't care! I kind of think you're just a loser cause you race against a scooter in the first place! The Tmax wasn't designed to be a race bike.
  7. piedevant

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    A few points Tacoma, and everyone else.
    1/ If you love your Tmax so much, why are you offering to sell it at all, at any price?
    2/ Those $ prices you quote for the new machines are way too low, if the European prices are anything to go by.
    The new Mk4 Tmax 530 costs the equivalent of $13,000+ in Europe. (€10,300 without ABS, €10,800 with ABS)
    3/ The new BMW maxis are even more expensive More like $15,000 and up for the High Line versions, but all have ABS as standard.
    4/ I have now ridden all 3 machines: Tmax 530, BMW C600Sport + BMW C650GT.
    5/ My 14 page write-up of the 530 Tmax can be read for free here: www.theridersdigest.co.uk PDF page 27
    6/ Pictures of both BMWs here: http://bikeweb.com/image/tid/130
    PNB in London, UK
  8. Hardguy

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    Piedevant, since you have ridden the TMAX 530 and both of the BMW's, which would you prefer and why?
  9. piedevant

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    I would like to ride them all together, along with the Burgman 650 and the new Aprilia RSV 850, but right now,
    what I would like, I think, is a BMW 650GT, with the underseat space of the Burgman, the looks of the BMW C600Sport, the weight of the 530 Tmax and the power of the Aprilia 850.
    I don't think it's much to ask, given the power and weight of sports bikes like the R1 and S1000RR!
    PNB
  10. Hardguy

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    Sounds like a perfect frankenstein scooter, Piedevant. But if you had to choose between the TMAX 530 and the two BMW's, which one is the most fun to ride?
  11. John Bentall

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    In Germany, BMW have priced the C600 Sport at $1,100 (+ sales taxes) more than the F800GS. Bearing in mind the massive differences in market pricing across the globe, the question will be whether the BMW is worth the extra over the T-Max in the individual customers eyes.
    Since many dealers in the USA seem to be giving away T-Max's the answer might well be in the negative in this market. The price of the BMW will probably cause a lot of flack over on US forums and I do not think dealers will give them away. The reason for this is that dealers will not be forced to take the scooter if they do not want it, so there should be very little surplus stock.

    John
  12. Tacoma

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    #1 cause I plan on trading it in on the new 2013 Tmax 530 and the dealer won't give me that much money on a trade in
    #2 I am guessing at U.S. prices
    #3 BMW is a copy of the Tmax, plus no BMW dealers in my area, and I like all Japanese vehicles
    #4 why pay twice as much for a BMW when a Tmax will perform the same?
  13. Tacoma

    Tacoma Been here awhile

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    I bought the Tmax because I couldn't get the Suzuki 650 Burgman cause the dealers made it tooo tough to buy it wanting $600 over MSRP and I got the Tmax for half the price, but i didn't know at the time the Tmax had better handling than the Burgman, not as fast, but better acceleration, not as much storage space, but I installed a 50 L topcase that can haul the big stuff.
    I paid $5000 less and I can exceed any speed limit on any steep mountain road and I can pass up any crotch rocket on any tight hairpin curve, the handling will amaze you, blow my doors in on the staight-a-way, but I will catch you as you slow down for that tight curve
  14. Tacoma

    Tacoma Been here awhile

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    I don't mean to be insulting to other scooter owners of this forum, if you think I am I'm sorry and I never meant it that way. Its just everybody around me here think I am an outcast just because I ride a scooter, ever go to a motorcycle shop and everybody there points and laughs at you when you pull up on a scooter? Its tough! I just thought that others have shared the same experiences that I have, and it would make me feel better knowing I am not the only one with those problems out there
  15. Cortez

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    A lot of Tmax owners locally ride the Tmax because it's the most expensive
    scooter on the market (again, here - the Burgman 650 is an oddball for our
    roads anyways).

    Half of them will switch to the BMW only if it's more expensive then the Tmax.
    They won't care about the differences.

    You'll see a bunch of people here riding 3-4 months in a year, going to the
    coffee shop and running errands on their tmaxes, never going out of town,
    doing 1000 miles/year.

    It's like an expensive watch, or a hat.
    Too bad, since it's a great scoot too.
  16. Cortez

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  17. John Bentall

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    Tacoma, you really need to chill a bit. Nobody will treat you like one of the gang if you beat your chest and tell everybody else that you have the best scooter - that you are going to catch them and beat them round the corners. You need to be part of the gang. If you happen to have the best scooter ever made, then that needs to be your secret.
    And never, ever forget that it is not what you ride, but the way that you ride it that really matters. Only on the track is it about being fast - on the highway it is about being safe and smooth, especially in the corners. Maybe take an MSF course and learn to ride safer and smoother that your buddies.

    Keep the rubber side down and please, please enjoy your riding! and don't worry about what everyone else thinks.

    John
  18. Tacoma

    Tacoma Been here awhile

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    I get pissed off when anybody cuts down and makes fun of the Tmax and they never been on one!
    and why is it the local crotch rockets always want to race me and pass me up? what did they prove? they are faster than a 500cc scooter? wow you must be someone special that your crotch rocket blew a scooter off the road, your friends must be really impressed! A blind man can see you can't ride that crotch rocket, you're afraid of it, the way I see your brake lights on the whole way around a curve, the way you try to ride a wheelie, you can't ride!
    I used to own crotch rockets and I was an expert at riding one!
  19. Hardguy

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    From reading all your posts, sounds like you need a hug. Those crotch rockets guys were probably trying to catch you to give you some hugs instead of blowing past you. :D You should just enjoy the scenery cause life is too short.
  20. Tacoma

    Tacoma Been here awhile

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    I run my Tmax on cross the state long distance trips 130 miles each way, with an aftermarket windscreen it makes the trip almost boring, I have a cup holder where I can drink a hot cup of coffee while riding, very comfortable, no need to stop and rest, plus with the storage space i can haul back what I went there for.
    I like to keep the Tmax as the best kept secret out there, the secret of the Tmax is the larger diameter tires and the low center of gravity that every other scooter maker is going to copy, it already has the Yamaha R6 front suspension and brakes.
    I admit I stumbled into buying the Tmax without knowing how great it was compaired to the other super scooters and its going to be tough for me wanting to spend $12K+ on the new BMW not knowing if its better than the current Tmax i own now.
    I am sure others have made the mistake of buying a new motorcycle later finding out the last motorcycle they owned was better.
    Believe me! its very strange for me to hold on to any motorcycle for more than 2 years, in the past I have always bought new bikes almost every year in that never ending search to find the right bike for me, so far I have found it, my Tmax,,, to me, there's nothing out there yet thats any better.