2009 Yamaha Tmax 500!

Discussion in 'Battle Scooters' started by rs-mn, Jun 6, 2008.

  1. 313

    313 jochucks

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    FS; 2009 Yamaha Tmax Great deal
    For sale: Yellow & black 2009 Yamaha Tmax 5k miles; garage bike; $4,500 OBO; located in Detroit, MI
  2. GuidoF

    GuidoF n00b

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    Hi all,

    New guy here.

    Does anyone happen to own a Garmin 5000 and the Tmax 500cc?

    I'm getting my first bike delivered tomorrow :) and I'd like to have the best mount for the job.

    Thanks much,,
    Dan
  3. habitual lateness

    habitual lateness let ride!!!

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    congrates on your new ride and welcome to the tmax community
  4. TheReaper!

    TheReaper! Been here awhile

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  5. psolk

    psolk TMAX Noob

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    Hey guys...
    Well I have some bad news (for me at least)... The T and I went down hard over the weekend. Obviously my fault as I should have been anticipating better and always expecting the unexpected but I was not...

    I was behind a minivan in a 55 mph curve in upstate NY on a 2 lane back road when she decided to STOP unexpectedly for a beaver crossing the road. (yes, locked up her brakes and came to a DEAD stop) Being in a fairly heavy lean already I could not lock up the brakes as that would have been the end of me. I was always taught to try to straighten the bike out first THEN brake. I did not want to ride into her rear bumper so using SIPDE I noticed there was no oncoming traffic and a guardrail on the other side of the road that was bending with the road. I "thought" I would be able to stear my T very easily towards the guardrail angling the bike and literally use that as a brace to steer me around the corner while I finished my braking... I knew I would screw the paint on the fairings but in a quick evaluation this "seemed" like my best option. I was going to try and angle myself so the guardrail became my support and just lean against it as I finished bringing the bike to a complete stop...

    Unfortunately SIPDE did not notice the hard pavement ended ~ 6 inches BEFORE the guardrail... When I got up to the rail to position myself to lean up against it (which looked like it was going to work perfectly) and ride it around the corner while I braked; the front tire dropped off the pavement and went under the guardrail catching the metal the support beam holding up the rail... The bike deflected off the support beam and I was flung ~12-15 feet through the air smacking my helmet on the pavement and landing in the middle of the street sliding on my back... The T is being inspected today but with two snapped front forks I do not have a good feeling about her...

    FORTUNATELY I had the right protection on: full leathers, chest and back protection, gloves with carbon fiber knuckles and I had just ordered the SIDI carbon fiber racing boots on Friday with full shin/heel and ankle protection that were due to come in tomorrow. UNFORTUNATELY I did not have the boots yet and the Harley Davidson boots I was wearing offered NO protection. (I mean ZERO protection.) Something (we really are not sure what) went right through the leather of the boot tearing the boot wide open and exposing my foot and ankle. I was left with a nasty gash on my foot and most likely torn ligaments and tendons in the ankle. (no broken bones) I am on crutches and in a brace and trying to arrange some appointments with a specialist ASAP.

    This was a very hard lesson to learn, sometimes the 2 second rule is just not enough if you are behind someone in a corner and they come to a complete stop while you are leaning... I could blame the idiot in the minivan who chose a beaver over the other motorists well being around her but I would not take any lessons from that... Not to mention the dumb B&T^H just drove off after it happened probably fearing she would get in trouble. Did not even stick around to see if I was OK!!!... So the reality is I need to look in the mirror and think long and hard about what I did wrong. With what looks like an indefinite future for the T and myself on crutches for quite some time I will have lots of opportunity to think it through....

    Well, That is it for now; hopefully I will be back and the T will be ok but as of today the riding days are done for a while during the recovery... I wanted to thank everyone here for all the support and feedback over the past year, this has been a great place to meet and share with other T lovers and I appreciated the community greatly.

    All the best to everyone, may all your rides be safe ones...
    Paul

    PS...All in all I am extremely lucky, all of my protection did its job!!! The helmet, leathers and gloves might have saved my life but DEFINITELY prevented my injuries from being MUCH MUCH worse... The biggest lesson to take away from all of this is wear your protection!
  6. habitual lateness

    habitual lateness let ride!!!

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    that sucks!!!
    take care and recover well, most importantly you live to ride another day
  7. neoboboo

    neoboboo scooter guy

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    @psolk

    Hang in there buddy! You'll recover, and hopefully rejoin us. As for the time being, take good care of yourself Paul!
  8. TheReaper!

    TheReaper! Been here awhile

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    P you wrote

    " So the reality is I need to look in the mirror and think long and hard about what I did wrong."

    I'm not ragging on you . BUT !

    In the end you will realize that you were traveling to close to the car in front of you . I've been riding for over 40 years and never been down ,
    YET !
    I am super defensive when I'm riding and I never tail gate . I assume no one sees me coming and I try to keep every one 10 to 15 seconds away from me .
    I seldom ride during rush hour for the obvious reasons . I never day dream while driving and never take any chances .

    If a biker rides through a green light a 50mph and some one runs the red light and kills him , who's fault is that ? I feel it's the bikers fault for not slowing down enough to stop if need be , if some one does run the red light ,it doesn't matter to the dead biker that the other guy got the ticket because he's dead . When we get in a wreck with a car and don't get hurt and have insurance , and the other guy got the ticket we don't care . But a wreck on a bike is another story , then it doesn't matter who got the ticket , it's who died or wound up in wheel chair .

    In your case you did not allow for the animal or the curve in the road , in other words it was your fault . I seriously doubt you will ever get that close to the car in front of you again . Between now and the next time you get on a bike , I can pretty well guarantee you that you will be a far better rider than you were .

    Most bike accidents happen to riders in their first 2 months , so inexperience is the biggest cause of accidents . The other is stupid mistakes like day dreaming , getting to close to the car in front of you , assuming the other guy sees you coming etc etc .

    Stay frosty out there , mistakes can be very painful even fatal . Get well and good luck to you .

    TheReaper!
  9. rtking

    rtking Been here awhile

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    Psolk, sorry to hear that you went down. I'm glad that you didn't go into the minivan or hurt yourself worse. I'm also impressed that you have the presence of mind to think back and understand the error that occurred and shared it with us.

    Heal up quickly! I hope the Tmax will be repairable, but if not, you can always get another. There's only one of you, so I'm glad that nothing worse came of it and that your gear did its job. ATGATT!
  10. psolk

    psolk TMAX Noob

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    Hey guys,
    I just wanted to drop a quick note to say thank you very very much for all the kind wishes! They are greatly greatly appreciated! I hope to hear today or tomorrow if she is totalled and I am at the ankle specialist tomorrow so hopefully I will know where everything stands by tomorrow night.

    Reaper,
    Not going to argue and glad you never ever daydream or make a mistake and that you have never laid down... I don't agree that a biker going through a 50 mph intersection getting blindsided by a car running a light is their fault because they weren't doing 15 through a 50 so they can brake if someone runs the light... they would probably end up rear ended lol... Yes we all need to be cautious and anticipate I would never argue that but not everything is the bikers fault as you simplify it down to...

    In my case
    1. I did not anticipate the car in front of me stopping (animal or not)
    2. I did not adjust the 2 second rule for a fast leaning corner where it would take me much longer to stop safely.
    3. I DID make eye contact with the driver (numerous times)
    4. I did assess the situation and take the lesser of the available evils (SIPDE)
    5. I did avoid hitting anyone else or another vehicle
    6. I probably would have pulled the save off if it was a hard shoulder
    7. I can what if myself to death ;)

    So really I need to step back, evaluate what I did RIGHT and WRONG and learn from it which is what I intend to do... Like you said Reaper, use this as an opportunity to make myself a better rider!

    Thank you for your input and feedback though... Again, I REALLY appreciate all the kind wishes and thoughts , they are so GREATLY APPRECIATED!
    Paul
  11. blues n twos

    blues n twos Adventurer

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    Sorry to hear of your off and so glad your ok.

    Speedy recovery to you and don't be a stranger.

    Jon
  12. TheReaper!

    TheReaper! Been here awhile

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    P , when I got me son started on a little Elite 80 , I gave him the same stuff I gave you about fault . Please understand when I say fault , understand I'm not looking for who got the ticket fault . In the end a biker is not like a guy driving a car . In order to save our own skin out there , we have to become defensive to the umpth degree . Ask any one who has been in a bike accident and he will tell you , I shouldn't have put myself in that position . Very often one or two seconds out there can make the difference between life and death . Take a look at that bridge Simon broke his neck on , I think he would tell you that the whole thing was his fault . The same with OZY , he admitted that he took a chance and lost . You can say I didn't know that animal was going to run across the road , but if you were allowing for him you wouldn't have gone down . You were only giving yourself enough room for perfection , in other words if some thing like the animal ran across the road you had no room to stop . You have to allow for that curve in the road , and that animal that might run across the road . Like I said above , I'm not raging on you . You were lucky , you're getting a second chance . Don't blow it .

    TheReaper!
  13. psolk

    psolk TMAX Noob

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    Thanks Jon, I really appreciate it and I intend to stick around! Hopefully I will find out about the T today or tomorrow...
    Hey Reaper,
    Not arguing at all, you are definitely preaching to the choir here. Like I said, I have to look at what I did right and wrong. I already said if I just put the blame on the minivan driver I would not learn anything from it and I firmly believe in evaluating the person in the mirror so you are preaching to the choir ;)

    And I agree, I definitely did NOT leave enough room between the minivan and I to allow for straightening the bike and and coming to a full stop if she locked her brakes (for any reason) unexpectedly under the current conditions... (fast corner requiring lean of the bike) I was so set on setting her up to pass her when the lanes turned to dotted yellow after the corner I did not think about the immediate moment or her slamming on her brakes. So in the end even though the Insurance company says it is shared blame and she was at some fault I do agree with you this was MY fault... :(:

    But if I live and learn and it makes me a better rider moving forward it was not a total loss I guess (hard to swallow now but I know that is the case big picture) And by sharing I can only hope I can save someone else from making the same mistake by thinking about my experience...
    Paul
  14. TheReaper!

    TheReaper! Been here awhile

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    Paul , do you remember the movie Cool Hand Luke ? In the end Luke got his mind right , and now so do you . I was talking to my son the other day about bike safety . Remember I said I started him with an Elite 80 ? Well then I moved him up to a pristine 86 Elite 250 with only 1200 miles on it . Then he was visiting last summer and took my Big Ruckus for a ride and said he loved it . So being the good dad I bought him one of those . Now I have to go down and get the 250 Elite back . Any way , he told me that he really didn't like the Elite 80 even though he was a little afraid of it in the very beginning . Like most riders he out grew the 80 rather quickly , but I made him drive it for an entire summer regardless . Then for 2 summers he really liked the Elite 250 because it has power to spare for around town driving . When I dropped the Big Ruckus off at his house he told me in a private moment , that he really appreciated the way I started him out with the little 80cc Elite . He said it gave his skills a chance to develop , and he said that had I got him going in a bigger bike to start with , he would probably gotten hurt or worse . I knew that , but it was nice to hear that he did too . Hang back , pay attention and stay well my friend .

    TheReaper!
  15. DOUBLE-O G

    DOUBLE-O G Smooth Operator

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    Sorry to hear you went down. Glad you're ok. Have you heard anything about your tmax yet? Would you consider selling parts if it is totaled? How about those integrated turn signals?
  16. TheReaper!

    TheReaper! Been here awhile

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    Does any one have an extra seat they would like to sell ? It would have to be in good condition no fading etc etc . I am getting another Tmax , it's used and the owner parked it uncovered at work and the seat is pretty faded . If I can get one reasonably priced I would rather do that than have this one recovered . PM me if you have one or know where I can find one . Thanks !

    TheReaper!
  17. psolk

    psolk TMAX Noob

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    Sorry guys,
    T is totaled and the aftermarket parts get written into the value of the bike and shipped off with her... So it appears my T Max days are done (for now at least...)

    All the best to you guys, ride safe!
    Paul
  18. Scooterboy58

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    Ouch I went back and read the story, any way you slice it ouch, But I am glad you did not have many injuries. The Tmax can be replaced but you can't Stay safe And before you ship it off can I buy the V belt? If it is still intact? The V belt flashing and the 14.6K miles on my Tmax are starting to get me worried........
  19. psolk

    psolk TMAX Noob

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    If the bike was at my local dealer I would TOTALLY have them pull everything salvageable off the bike and sell you guys the parts but the accident happened 2 1/2 hours from home and getting to the bike is a HUGE pain, especially with one working leg and some bruised ribs in the end too... I think it is being shipped off tomorrow :puke1!

    Incidentally, I saw the doc today too, the foot ankle and knee were so swollen he could not even diagnose them. Back into a boot, on crutches and some antibiotics for the cut and he will try again in 2 weeks! I am going to New York on Monday to see the Giants and Yankees team Dr. so we will see if he needs two weeks to diagnose it as well...

    Thanks again for all the support on the forum guys... Here's hoping the 750 isn't just a pipe dream and by the time I am healed up for next season she is ready for me :LMAO:
    -Paul
  20. TheReaper!

    TheReaper! Been here awhile

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    Paul I take it the X-rays didn't show any thing ? Also , are you seeing a good orthopedic specialist ?

    TheReaper!