2011 bmw g 650 gs fork failure

Discussion in 'Face Plant' started by antiquewidow, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. henrymartin

    henrymartin Mr. Tourguide

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    Okay, now I see/know a little more. This is just amazing and scary as hell. I hit 85-90 on mine all day. I hope you just have a bad batch of forks, and it's not some redesign issue with the '11 model year. Didn't they move production in the past year or so?

    Damn, I jumped my bike, rode it off-road with some pretty aggressive surfaces, hit potholes at 75mph....well, you get the picture.

    Now, if this is a bike failure, make sure your insurance does not take the hit (as in you had an accident - your premium goes up). I would go after BMW for a new bike and gear. I hate it when people sue people, so I'll not even go there, but if the manufacturer screwed up, you should get all new stuff at least.

    File the complaint.
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  2. antiquewidow

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    Henry Martin - YEAH scary as all hell! Please becareful - I feel like I got hit by a mac truck going slow.. I shutter to think what would happen if someone went fast..
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  4. See-Double-You

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    I see splatter on the tire, but the inside of the fork looks really really clean.


    Was there any suspension fluid inside the fork?
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  5. AceRph

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    Looks like oil on the rim & tire in the second picture.

    Only 95 miles on the bike.
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  6. Rick G

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    IIRC 650 single production was moved to China when it went from an F series to G series to save cost and to maintain a price point.

    Glad you weren't hurt anymore than you were. Do file a report with the NHTSA. Do contact your dealer and ask for help. Do contact BMW NA for assistance. Finally and I hate to say it, contact a good lawyer.

    BMW needs to step up to the plate on this one.

    Please keep us informed of the outcome. I would not want that bike back. A brand new bike that has its forks inspected at the very least. Your insurance should not have to take a hit on this, which it will if you turn it in. This is on BMW.

    Just to be sure, as I am sure you will be asked this. Were there any wheelies involved? I am sure as a newbie the answer is no but accidental wheelies from inproper clutch throttle mgt is common.

    Good luck!

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  7. antiquewidow

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    yes lotsa fluid
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  8. antiquewidow

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    as stated i am a newbie n couldnt even tell ya how to perform a wheelie.. i had no throttle thrust it was even ... if that helps..
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  9. JDLuke

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    I don't think it's that cut and dried. Where are Showa forks manufactured?
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  10. henrymartin

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    The motor assembly was moved to China, not the bike (at least on my 09), parts were shipped to China, engine assembled, then shipped to Germany to be put in the frame. Those should be Showa forks, IIRC.
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  11. Rick G

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    I stand corrected.

    Note to the OP, I only mentioned the wheelie aspect as I am certain you will be asked during the investigation and the fact that unintentional wheelies are very common among newer riders due to improper clutch / throttle management. I know as I did it myself the first time I merged onto a highway and scared the shit out of myself. I am not trying to say that you intentionally wheelied. Only asked if it happened and by your reply I have to assume that no wheelies occured prior to the failure.

    It is unfortunate but the initial reaction from BMW will probably be, "What did you do to cause this?" It is the nature of the litigous society we live in. Deflect blame onto others. Only accept responsibility when there is no other option.

    Good luck,

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  12. antiquewidow

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    no problem on the wheelie thing, I just wanted to note that it wasnt thats all....thanks
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  13. acesandeights

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    That should buff right out. Hope all gets taken care of and you get heal quick.
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  14. lemieuxmc

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    You need to get with the people who had the failure on the earlier models, that looks like exactly the same thing.

    That's very, very, bad news for BMW and anyone riding one of those bikes, because now they are all suspect.
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  15. lemieuxmc

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    I did a search and found this;

    Crash in Destruction Bay

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371650

    It is easy check which forks you have courtesy of the composite pic from squarewheels. The only known failures are the old style

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7633376&postcount=92

    The forks on the left are the old type, the forks on the right are the new type. Both have the same BMW Part No.

    The interesting part is we are not sure when the new type were introduced into production. Initially it was thought June 2003 but we now know of one machine built December 2002 with the newer style strengthened fork legs.

    Thanks to the posts here we seem to have narrowed the changeover to Oct 2002.

    You can check the production date of any BMW by decoding the VIN and there is a handy web site available to do so.

    http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi

    It would be of assistance if people could post the results into this thread to narrow the production range of the machines with the earlier casting. Only post the production date and which type of casting the machine has

    It would also be prudent for owners of machines with old style castings to refer any concerns they may have to BMW to satisfy themselves of the safety of these castings.
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  16. rob feature

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    Man, I sure hate to see this shit again - especially on a brand new bike. Glad you weren't hurt badly. Hopefully this will wake BMW up and get them to at least acknowledge the problem. I wouldn't hold my breath though. :puke1
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  17. TwilightZone

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    Hmmm wow, same as the old failures... but with the newer design forks.
    Not good. I kind of suspect that the old failures too were flaws in the casting process.

    See what happens.
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  18. JDLuke

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    What's with that dark spot at the bottom right of the break? Could that have been the weak spot where the trouble started here?

    My F650GS was manufactured in 03/01, with the original (weaker) style forks. For the first couple of years that I had the bike I weighed over 250 pounds. I abused the hell out of them until two years ago when I upgraded to Kayaba USD forks from a Yamaha dirt bike. I agree that there is likely to be a manufacturing rather than a design flaw.
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  19. lemieuxmc

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    Post a photo of your bike with the Yamaha forks please, I like that idea!
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  20. JDLuke

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    There are a bunch of us who did this conversion, there's a thread on it in the 'Thumpers' board.

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