2011 Kymco People GTi 300 review

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  1. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Morning scoot warriors!

    I figured some might be interested in some details from my 3+ hour ride
    on the 2011 Kymco People GTi 300 so here goes!

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    The 150 mile ride consisted of some WOT highway (about 30 miles), some
    local, rather straight roads with 50-55mph speed limits, and a nice 50
    miles of all sorts of twisty bits, from 180 deg turns going both uphill and
    downhill and even some nice 70-75mph bends.

    Just about enough to get a good feel for the bike.

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    I'll mention in advance that I did get a chance to ride the Downtown 300i
    just shortly before this bike, and if you missed it, that review is HERE.

    I have also tried the new for 2011 Piaggio Beverly (BV) 300 which is it's
    main competitor here in EU. Sorry to say that the Honda SH300i is a bike
    I haven't even seen on our roads (Croatia) since it costs A LOT more then
    any of the mentioned, and the SH300 probably IS the closest thing to the
    new People GTi 300 and would make for a nice comparison.

    Anyways, on to the review!

    Starting my quick blast with the mentioned 30 mile stretch of highway
    gets some parts of the review out of the way very quickly. The top speed,
    comfortable cruising speed and wind protection. Maybe even overall comfort.

    I must say I was surprised with all of these.

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    I was NOT expecting a lot of wind protection due to the fact that the bike
    is virtually naked, the windscreen looks like it's more of a style accessory
    then a proper wind deflector, and generally the comfort on these medium
    sized, big wheeled city scooters usually suffers due to the stiff suspension
    (like the Beverly 300's).

    You can imagine my shock when I figured out there was NO wind
    whatsoever below my shoulder line (sure, the arms are in the wind, but
    no biggie) and that the legs were protected rather well. The flat floorboard
    enables you to hide your legs from the wind completely. A very nice bonus
    for a naked scooter. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that you sit
    "in" the scooter rather then "on" the scooter. Even if the People doesn't look
    big, it really is. The dash/wind deflector was more or less lined up with the
    chin part of my helmet, so my head was free from turbulent air and everything
    below was well protected.

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    I must say this felt more comfortable then the Downtown 300i's windscreen
    chucking me around at anything above 50mph. I need a different windscreen
    size on the Downtown for my 5'11" frame.

    Relative to the wind pressure, we come to the comfortable cruising speed.
    Since the engine doesn't seem to be working hard at ANY speed, and I was never
    able to hear it work under my Schuberth C2 helmet, I tried working out when it
    was working hard from the vibrations, but again, there aren't any, the scooter is
    virtually vibration free at highway speeds up to 81-82mph, but the wind pressure
    at those speeds (and above) will probably have you lower your cruising speed
    to 75mph.

    WOT very quickly results in an indicated 93-94mph, give it some time and it will
    stop around 97mph with just a slight wind from behind. Tucking in, looking as
    stupid as possible, and you'll be shocked to see 100mph on a bike with a rated
    output of just 28hp. I was not able to hit 100 on the Downtown, but it got very
    close.

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    (Going back the same road in the wind resulted in 5mph less sitting upright and
    bending over (don't get any ideas)).

    The bike is planted (feels heavier on the handlebars then it's rated weight figures,
    but it never gets in the way of ease of riding) at ANY speed it can reach, and
    surprisingly more comfortable then the Downtown 300i which is obviously set
    up a bit on the firm side to allow more luggage and passenger not getting in the
    way of handling (and indeed it doesn't).

    However, both these scooters will handle a passenger better then my Kawasaki
    650R, from the seat to the suspension.

    Speaking of suspension (and the frame), this scooter has a huge grin factor
    when you come to the twisty bits. Sure it's frame will get nervous at WOT
    already around 65mph, but it's nothing to be worried about. The suspension
    and tires can handle it, and a flat floorboard scoot must have it's limitations.

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    Bare in mind we're talking silly lean angles here with the throttle wide open,
    changing direction as fast as possible since the road goes in every single
    direction, including constant changes in altitude. I never felt like the bike
    got overwhelmed and I was doing 40 to 70mph and accelerating WOT out
    of every corner and braking late. The Downtown 300 DOES feel a bit better
    riding like this, but People's CVT seems to be better tuned for lower speed
    acceleration (confirmed by a stopwatch later) and it'll pull hard from 40mph
    whereas the DT300 would be more gentle in it's power delivery up to 60mph,
    but then it would leave the People 300 behind.

    0-62mph indicated takes 9,5 seconds, and that's about a second faster then
    the DT300 on average, but the DT300 I had for review was accelerating at
    5700rpms for some reason, and not 6100-6200rpms (which would make a
    big difference) like I see in most other videos out there.

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    Brakes are also top notch and one finger braking is enough in all but the
    most extreme situations, where you'll just need to use one finger more.
    Again, the initial bite of the brakes, just like on the Downtown 300 feels
    stronger then on my Kawasaki. You do NOT need another disc up front
    on any of these two!
    I didn't have a chance to measure the fuel consumption with precision, but
    some quick math in my head came up with a ballpark of 52-58MPG for
    rather aggressive riding. From what I've read on other People and Downtown
    threads (and different forums too), they're both capable of 70MPG riding
    within the speed limits.

    Did I forget anything?
    Oh, storage space.

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    Yeah, you can carry a cell phone and a tin of sardines under the seat.
    A full face helmet WILL NOT fit there, but you get a free topcase with the
    scoot here (color matched too). It's quality is a bit on the low side of things,
    but it's free, and it works.

    If you need better storage space, the Downtown's underseat storage is something
    like 60L, and if you fit a huge topcase on it, you can travel around the world
    with it.

    Build quality, just like on the DT300 is top notch. Everything fits well together,
    there's no buzzes (the DT300 had 4000mi. on the ODO, the People had 2000mi),
    and everything seems to be working as it should.

    Even if they're both on the higher side of the 300cc scooter market prices,
    both the DT and People 300 should realistically be compare to the 400 and bigger
    scoots because of their size and performance, and then they don't look as expensive
    anymore.

    I'm in the process of selling my Kawasaki and replacing it with a scooter, and
    to tell the truth, I'd be happy with any of these two, and the Xciting 500i EVO.

    It's gonna be a tough call when the time to decide comes.

    Better quality pics are here:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/dbauernf/2011KymcoPeopleGTi300
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  2. tastroman

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    Nice review. Thanks.
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  3. Cortez

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    Thanks!
    I enjoyed writing it, but not as much as riding the thing!:evil
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  4. LarryRickenbacker

    LarryRickenbacker Been here awhile

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    Howdy,

    Enjoyed the review; thanks for posting.
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  5. MODNROD

    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    Thanks for the write-up Cortez.
    I wonder if you could fit a screen that covers the whole lower bar section, and extends up a few inches with maybe a top lip to deflect wind over your helmet?
    I also wonder how the bike would go with a J.Costa/Malossi, pipe and filter! :clap
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  6. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Yessir!
    Like so?
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    Just Dr Pulley sliders (1g less) and a HiT clutch on the Downtown takes the
    0-60 time from 10 to 8 seconds, and I've seen 6 second clips on youtube!

    That engine has got a lot of potential!

    It would be great in a naked/SM style bike with a manual.
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  7. MODNROD

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    It would also be great under my bum down our winding highways thru the hills.......
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  8. Cortez

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    Get in line!
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  9. tastroman

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    A windscreen would be mandatory for it in my book. I wonder if one is available in the states?
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  10. Cortez

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    It's got better wind protection in general then my faired kawasaki 650r.

    It's A LOT better then any of these big wheeled narrow scoots that I've
    tried before without a windscreen.
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  11. scooterspirit

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    great review, really appreciate that. It looks like a great bike, not to disappoint at all.

    I haven't seen either but the GT looks roomier than the Honda. Seems the Honda is quicker to 60. I like the looks of the GT in pictures. They both have a gas fill under the seat, what a hassle. Good sound off the line. Something we saw, suggested a restricted lean angle, but it sounds like no problem, and I'm sure it isn't.

    I've been waiting forever for that inmate is AZ to get his bike he ordered months ago. They said it would be in about now. Maybe he didn't get it because he had to pay up front. It would be nice if he could at least verify some of your bull.
    Only kidding, thanks again!
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  12. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    If he can verify even HALF of my bull, he'll still be happy with his purchase!:clap
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  13. alphaBETAdog

    alphaBETAdog Been here awhile

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    Sorry Scooterspirit, I cancelled my order a while back. However, after reading Cortez's great review, I'm regretting that decision! :2cry
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    Great review, Cortez - thanks! Now the big question - which do you like better - the People GTi or the Downtown 300? And why? I'm getting the bug for a scooter I can tour on that gets great gas mileage, was thinking Burgman 400 but should I consider these new scoots?
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  16. Cortez

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    For pure touring purposes, I wouldn't be surprised if Burgman 400
    (or SW400/Majesty 400) would do better, but haven't ridden ANY of
    these, I can't really tell.

    From what I've heard from people who HAVE ridden the Downtown AND
    any of the 3 jap bikes, other then comfort/roomier accommodations
    (some will mention the higher top speed too), there might be nothing
    else worth paying extra for on these. At least not THAT much extra.

    Between the Downtown and People, for me, it's an easy choice.
    Downtown all the way!

    Even if the People probably IS a better choice for 80-90% of in-town
    riding, I'm a GT scoot dude and I loved the Downtown for it's looks,
    seating position, huge storage and great performance.

    There's no doubt the People is more fun, but Downtown will handle
    touring duties better, and it felt lighter on it's feet (smaller wheels
    and huge handlebars FTW?) then the People.

    Also, it behaved better cornering at speed, less frame flex (not that
    there's anything to worry about on the People) and faster at speeds
    above 60mph.

    The Downtown also responds extremely well to Dr Pulley sliders and
    it would make a mandatory upgrade in my book, making it even faster
    off the line, and it'll cruise at lower RPMs at speeds over 60mph.

    I was a bit worried about high revving at higher speeds, but 30hp out
    of 300cc can't be achieved differently, and I'm sure Kymco knows what
    they're doing.

    I can honestly say I could live with Downtown 300 if I ever sell my
    Kawasaki, but no one seems to be interested right now..

    I'd love to try the Xciting 500Ri EVO too, but that's not about to happen
    since none were EVER sold here.. :D

    Feel free to ask anything specific if I missed anything.. you were more then
    helpful when I was buying my Agility 125!:freaky:freaky
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    MODNROD Decisions, decisions

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    One more dumb opinion question please Cortez! :lol3
    Have you ridden the Piaggio 300 (278?) motor in something (coz I haven't ridden the Downtown or the GTI)?
    Reason for asking.........
    Prices in Oz.
    Burgman400 $9500
    Tmax $12000
    Vespa GTS 300 $8500 (a white one please)
    Downtown $7500
    GTI People $7500 (apparently, but not official yet)
    Piaggio X7 300i $6000

    Piaggio X7 300i AND Malossi 4v kit (head, piston, cam)..........$7250

    Makes it a tough decision.
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  18. Cortez

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    I have ridden a few 250/300 piaggio quasar based scooters, the new
    BV/Beverly 300 not that long ago ad it, well.. doesn't compare well.

    Other then big wheels, I felt cramped on it (5'11"), pushed to much
    to the front by the seat shape (which was too small and rather
    uncomfortable), there was NO wind protection (I imagine Vespa GTS
    would be about the same) etc.

    Haven't tried any of the ones you mentioned, but recall a 7 scooter
    shootout in a local mag (that the Downtown won, Xmax 250 was
    2nd) that mentioned how the X7 300 was the fastest accelerating
    piaggio scoot using that engine, but the top speed was like 75mph
    or sumthn.. :-\

    The Piaggio 250/300 engine is silky/electric-engine-like smooth but
    does nothing for me in terms of performance after you try any of the
    Kymcos with the G5 300cc engine.

    I guess it boils down to what you want from your scooter, the Tmax
    and Burgman 400 shouldn't be on your list with all the others.. or
    vice versa. Apples and oranges.

    Downtown is something halfway between a Burger and an X7 for
    example.
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  19. MODNROD

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    OK.
    I figured the prices would be a bit of a comparison, and a Tmax is like a "big-brother" Downtown I spose.
    And I JUST, JUST missed out on a Vespa GT200 for $1000, engine in bits (like in boxes bits!). I would have been on the phone to SIP before the day was out if I'd got there quick enough, crank as well in the order of course. A GT200 with a 260-ish cc with ported Malossi 4V kit would have been fun....... :deal
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  20. btcn

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    Nice review looks like a great little Scoot!

    I wander how optimistic the lier of a Speedo it has claiming 100 MPH is? Although it SHOULD be able to do a true 100 MPH with 300 cc, the Ninja 250 is probably not much heavier and does over a true 100 MPH with 249 cc.
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