2012 BMW G650GS Sertao Owners

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Psychout, Dec 8, 2011.

  1. WayneC

    WayneC Long timer

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    Ah, I make no claims to fame, we always have something new to learn every day and I would like a $ for every time I have been wrong

    The important thing is to share around what we each learn so the knowledge bank increases for all
  2. alskee750

    alskee750 Been here awhile

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    Thanks guys for the + feedback..

    Windowto: Good catch on bleeding the system of air. Since I was trail side and only had water which was a sweltering hot ass hike to acquire. I couldn't even remember what to do and didn't have the manual on hand either. But your right it makes sense and will try that once I get her back home. Poor girl is in transit via freight, if I had the time I'll ride her butt back home.

    Swamp: You lucky dog! I had a very cool shot/Pic with him while fueling up in Lake City, CO. He gave me some updated information regarding Utah's track which came very handy. Utah was like a maze and I had trouble finding my track for a while until I remember what Sam Told me. I went back and POW, everything worked out great and the ride was epic.

    Coloradodirtrider: You my friend have a awesome state to ride in! Anywhere you turn you can find a trail in a drop of a dime. I ventured off a few times and found myself on some tight single track, etc. Alot of work getting her out but always in good fun.

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    Rear Sprocket: Looks like I got around 11,500 or close to 12000. In Oklahoma I was hitting the dirt pretty quick once you entered zen mode. Sliding into corners, whipping the throttle while existing and trying to keep the ass in check! I went w/ JT steel sprocket, easy change over. Ordered it through Sean in Buena Vista, CO.

    Tires: I did a total of 3,300 miles. 1800 miles directly to Oklahoma, and that was using Kenda big blocks. They already had about 3000 miles on them so they took a good beating. I rode w/ the Kenda's in Oklahoma for about 400 miles of complete off road, sand, gravel, dirt. I reached that point where tires weren't gripping and chain was slipping. Managed to get to Buena Vista, CO and swapped out my Kenda for Dunlops 606 (All he had or I would've gone w/ Kenda again).

    Saddle Bags: Swamp, I think you hit the button here w/ the Giant Loop Great basin bag. My wolfman actually held up pretty good. Right side got a tear in it not making it water tight anymore (Low slide off a corner in Ok). Once strap ripped off when it got caught with a tree in a single track in CO. I just hate taking the off and on, I dont like removing all the content from the inside if I'm not using it. So maybe there will be a change in my future, probably Giant Loop.

    Riding Gear: I wore a Fox compression suit. Klim traverse jacket and pants, jacket never came on except when it poured at times. It worked perfectly for me. I always have my Camelbak Mule, fit's everything and water is plenty.

    More to come... Stay tuned.. But if you have any questions.. shoot...
  3. windowto

    windowto Been here awhile

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    Agreed. I still think Nylon needs to find a way to get bad fuel/water/whatever else from the system...
  4. WayneC

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    Sounds that way on the fuel, what he did not mention was finding the "Judder Ring/Spring, it looks like two metal discs each 1/2 the thickness of a steel clutch plate so they would be 1.75mm thick, if anything was going to break up (other than fibre plates) when pushing the clutch to the limit they would be the items and he has measured all the other plates at close to the correct thickness

    The fact they are NLA on the fiche for over 12 months from memory is fishy to me, it smells of a discontinued part
  5. windowto

    windowto Been here awhile

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    Nylon,

    I just had another thought. I think it might be possible that the back firing problem is caused by a short in the side stand switch wiring, or the switch itself. If you stop in gear (with clutch depressed of cause) and extend the side stand, the engine shuts off. This is to prevent the bike from moving forward unintentionally. The bike will shut off, unless it's in neutral. Having a short in the wiring can cause misfiring and intermittent ignition on/off scenario, while in gear. Can you experiment and quickly shift into neural, next time the bike misfires? I think, if the misfiring stops, or if you cannot duplicate the misfiring in neutral, you confirm that the problem is related to the switch circuit. I would probably do this before doing any other wrenching, since this requires no work at all.

    Your thoughts Anyone? Am I missing anything?
  6. kdennan

    kdennan Been here awhile

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    Great, thanks!
  7. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice In Garrison.

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    Thanks for the helpful response.

    Thanks for the pro tip on double checking that the seat is secured back on.
  8. nylon2000

    nylon2000 Wanderer

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    Clutch - Yes, found the 2 judder disks. The manual was critical in figuring out how to put those back together! I think im in good shape on this now, i got the old clutch working, have a dual spark set of friction plates, and a full new clutch, plus springs on its way over via DHL.

    Fuel - I just cant believe i got that much water/crud in the tank after 1 bad fuel up. I know its mongolia here, but most of the places seem fine and sell 88 octane. It was just once that i had to use 76, and although the town was tiny, the pump was powered. It wasn't as if i was getting fuel from a barrel! I'll check the spark plugs, as thats relatively easy to get at - what am i looking for there?

    I really hope this problem will just "sort itself out"!

    Electrical - I haven't looked at my bike in a day, but when I summon the energy to face it, I'll start by jiggling the side stand to see if the switch is loose. I know where the switch is, and how to bypass it if needed. If its not that, then im in over my head!
  9. WayneC

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    Good to hear you worked out working on the clutch, I will be very interested to hear how you go with the dual spark plates, let us know and I will add the info of what you find to the online docs for others in the future

    If you can look online I have a circuit diagram of the starter and lock out circuits on the repairs page, see the signature below
    We have had to work on those with question/answer to talk people through faults and got them going, it is why I created the diagram

    The side stand switch can lose the circlip and just sit in place ready to cause trouble, a quick bypass wire loop should tell you if it is the fault
  10. O'Malley

    O'Malley O'Malley

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    Hey Guys,

    I rarely post because I'm pretty sure I know the least about motorcycles. But just in case this helps someone else, I used my hazard lights on the Taconic Highway coming home late one night this week. I try not to ride at night but had to because of work, and I think the hazards made me way more visible to cars on the road that was more or less pitch black. Also I was very impressed with the Sertaos highbeam. The highway patrol gave me a double take, but didn't seem to mind. Just throwing it out in case its helpful.

    O'Malley
  11. swamp

    swamp U lie&yo'breff stank

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    alskee,
    do the traverse pants have knee protection?
  12. alskee750

    alskee750 Been here awhile

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    Unfortanetly, it does not come with it but I opted to buy the D30 amor which is rated the best one. The pants have 2 zips on each side for air flow. It works great as long as your moving. But I really do like there new line up:

    Klim Overland, it comes w/ amor and I heard that they took alot of feedback of riders. And they came up w/ the Overland suit.

    http://youtu.be/g-K1rs05mkY
  13. bhb

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    i wear wear a traverse jacket and overland pants. i added armor to the traverse jacket, as (like the pants) the traverse line doesn't come with armor. Neither breathe that well, but i have zero doubt they would protect well in a crash. I had a minor low speed get off on the dirt and the stuff looks brand new still. The big difference, from what i can tell reading online, is that the traverse line is not quite as waterproof as the overland, even tho they are both goretex. I haven't tested this yet, though.
  14. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur

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    Go for the Stewart-Cassiar Hwy over the Alcan. It was beautiful scenery when I did it 27 years ago. It was all gravel then. Don't know about now. Then you can stop in Hyder AK and get Hyderized.
    http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/popular-topics/driver_info/route-info/hwy37/hwy37.htm
  15. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur

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    Nylon, glad to hear you are on the road again. I was off backpacking and wondering how you were doing.

    Sounds more like an electrical or ECU problem to me. Check every darn connection for cleanliness and tightness. It could be something as simple as the side-stand circuit shorting out, but the fact that it happens more often under load or at high RPM makes me think ECU. Good tip on checking the coils (spark plug caps are actually the ignition coils). Also, checking the connections between the ignition coils and the ECU is warranted. I'll try to look into more ignition stuff today.

    If it is water in the tank, a few ounces of methanol (dry-gas) will take care of it. If it is other gunk, you will have to find some fuel system cleaner with stronger solvents. Don't use too much as you have a very small tank.
  16. KeepItUp

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    Trane Francks Been here awhile

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    Yeah, definitely something along those lines. It looks enticing to do that whole Haines Junction-Fairbanks-Anchorage-Haines Junction loop, too. Getting there via AlCan or Stewart-Cassiar makes for interesting choices. Maybe go up one way and come back down the other?

    I just wish it were currently more a case of planning than dreaming. One day. :evil
  18. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur

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    I did the BC Ferries/Alaskan Marine Hwy to Haines. Then Tok, Anchorage (bought REAL rain gear), Kenai, Fairbanks, Dalton Hwy, Chicken, Dawson City, Whitehorse, Hyder then cut across to do Jasper and Banff. 5+ weeks on a R80G/S.
  19. Black09JK

    Black09JK Adventurer

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    I picked up 4 from them last month. Had 2 mounted for a bit but they were shaking and bouncing and rattling way to much for me. I felt like I was going to lose them on the trail.

    How did you mount yours to the racks?
  20. swamp

    swamp U lie&yo'breff stank

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    alskee,

    did you carry any camping gear with you ?

    what do you use ?



    NYlon,

    im sure you did. what are you using?




    i use a hammock and a tarp.