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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Psychout, Dec 8, 2011.
I do like the "BMW" on the snout. Think I'll go by some vinyl letters.
Not sure why you'd paint it opaque like that. While the amount of area that is visually masked isn't large, it still reduces visibility.
While I try not to openly mock folks on their mod choices, I do use them as a guide at times.
I have a "try" and a "lol, no way" list.
This thread has filled up the latter list more than the former.
Hello Sertao Owners
Greetings from a Dakar owner.
I find that the headlight shroud is very weak. The whole assembly is malengineered.
We need to remove the indicators to remove the side panels.
The front part of the shroud above headlight is connected to the part that goes around the intrument panel with two weak screws on plastic.
The whole assembly is attached to the frame only in one awkward location (below the handlebars, on the fork).
Everything is weak brittle plastic.
How are you finding that area in the Sertao? Any improvement?
Have either of you ever tried to look through that windscreen? It is so distorted that unless you're trying to avoid a rapidly approaching barn it's not going to do you any good. What's the problem with painting something you can't see through anyhow? I've considered painting mine as it wouldn't change the visibility from the seat at all (I also have a Montana mounted above the dash which takes up 70% of the viewing area anyways). I'd probably paint it black, but to each their own.
Indicators mount to the section of headlight assembly so side panels can be removed without touching them.
The headlight support, as the manual refers to it, still bolts to the steering head but with 2 pretty substantial bolts. It is still some sort of plastic, but I haven't heard anyone on this thread complaining of failures. Looks pretty substantial for most use, but I expect it could it snap off in a crash. Didn't seem like a brittle material when I was in there a few days ago.
Hope that is of some help.
Installed the TT brace and replaced the steel license plate POS mount with an aluminum plate. New plate weighs 4 oz. versus 12 oz. stock. It did shave 1/2 lb off.
Took about 10 minutes to make the plate. 20 minutes to install along with the brace. Feels very solid.
Hope this will keep it from falling off somewhere. I'll still investigate installing the 2 additional bolts through the tail light at a later date.
$319 for the seat, I think I got some sort of discount for riding out there. He re-foamed most of the seat, and added about two inches into where the scoop used to be. I'm 6'4 and I hated the sh!t out of that scoop. The seat was pretty close to flattened out and recovered. Love it.
AWESOME! Is that spray paint? I've wanted to do that for a while now.
Any conclusion to your experiments? Motorcycle superstore has some Dakar compatible springs for about $100....thinking about going for it. Already have10 wt oil in there
I decided to stay with the intiminators. But you just reminded me that I still have the HyperPro springs laying around. I'll sell them for a $100. The springs only have about 200-300 miles on them (all highway). Two reasons I think the HyperPro springs are better than Progressive Suspension springs are:
1) They are wound much more gradually then the PS. The PS springs are almost like two separate segments, hard and soft.
2) They are specified for the Sertao specifically unlike the PS, which are specified for the Dakar. Many people think that the forks are the same, but they are not exactly the same. Dakar specifies different oil levels and, I wouldn't be surprised if the damper rod holes are different. I am not saying the Dakar springs wouldn't work, but why put them in there if you have springs that are made for Sertao?
TT sells the HyperPro springs for $199 (http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/...essive-Fork-Springs-BMW-G650GS-Sertao-2011-on), I'll sell them for a $100 (firm) + shipping.
What do you say?
P. S. Forgot to answer you initial question. I really don't have a good road to test my findings. I had quite a good result with the original 7.5 weight oil and the HyperPro springs. The plushness in the initial part of the travel remained about the same as the original, but the brake dive was reduced. Also, the HyperPro springs are about 10mm shorter than the originals. Since I used the original spacers (per instructions), the bike became slightly (barely perceptible) lower upfront. This gave me better ground reach and better steering response in tight curves. I didn't notice any ill effects on handling. Of course, if you don't want the bike to be lower, you could cut spacers to size from PVC pipe.
On the other hand, the iniminators with original springs made the ride on a highway slightly harsher, but it seems that once the bumps are sudden, the compliance gets better. Once again, I don't have good place to really test it.
Sending you a PM.
I use a 4ft piece of clear 1/4" tube to just siphon it out. Costs less than a buck , once its flowing I get the hose to stay put in the lowest portion of the tank and find something else to do. Takes more time than a pump but the hose stores neatly under the seat so I can do an easy oil change anywhere.
Re Disabling ABS on the Sertao for those doing a fork swap and getting the speedo to work
The rear wheel sensor needs to be extended to Dash Connector Pin3 (SEH+ Ws/Sw) and Pin 17 (SEHS Ws/Br)
These two pins are unused in the ABS Vsn wiring but used on a non ABS machine so the dash handles both signal types
Dont know about the ABS lamp ........yet. Would be worth checking the Dash P/N is the same for ABS/Non ABS Models
ive literally been living in the woods for the past month.
how is the bike coming?
anyone passing through alabama needs to come see me.
For those of you who are running tires that are more on the off road side, what pressures have you had success with?
On road, I run around anywhere between 28-30 (+2 in the rear). That's with the stock Metzlers.
I have tried a few knobbies, and the ones I have on there now, Michelin T63s, I run at 18 front 20 rear, when I am off road.
I know, several variables to take into account: speed, rider weight, gear, terrain, tubes, etc.
General off road riding. No gear. What psi?
Swamp? I believe you have run the same tires, and you ride off road more than the average owner. Thoughts?
On my CRF250, I run around 11/12, but that is a very different bike...
Sandy riding with no hard objects 18 front 20 rear. Rocky with lots of square edged hits, 22ish and 25. Never had problems even with regular tubes. Heavy duty tubes would add some peace of mind. Riding at 1st and 2nd gear pace mostly, which is what the stock suspension can handle. Tires = michelin T63.
I will give up a little performance for not changing flats any day. Problem is, your group is only as fast as the guy who gets lots of flats.....
There should be plenty of space for a fuse block under the seat where the manual goes. I secured my fuse block with zip ties and heavy duty velcro.
Holy shit, I thought u were gone fo-eva!
You were never in the woods if you dont show proof, you know the rules
Unfortanetly, I work on the moto when I'm up in the catskills so it tends to be weekends only. That's if I can make it up, family/work take me away from the fun stuff at times. I'm upstate now and been working for hrs none stop. It's coming together, slowly but getting there. I'm anal so I want it to come out just right so nothing bites me in the ass later on.
More work to come, but not so much time. As long as I'm riding. Commuting with my Triumph Bonneville so I'm still happy.
Good job! Nice and clean. But how the hell do you keep it that clean? Good lord.
My dealer is going to put the Shorai in during assembly and credit me the cost of the stock unit. Seems like a good dealer to work with.