2012 Dinosaur Run.

Discussion in 'The Rockies – It's all downhill from here...' started by Geek, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    I'm going to put you in with Team 3 because I think TheMuffinMan will want to ride with all the fellow LC8 bikes in Team4 when he chimes in (shaping up for an epic 3 on 3 KTM Adventure vs. F800 battle... I wonder who will get more pinch flats? :D ).

    :freaky

    That'll give us two teams of 7 and a team of 6 ...and a team of aliens coming from the wrong direction. :D
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    If anyone has an objection to the team sizes being too large.. speak up now and we can add another team. Of course we can shuffle during the ride if you want to ride with different people/new friends, etc... just ALWAYS make sure your team is aware if you do so so they don't waste time searching for yer sorry arse!

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    Norm: did you some of your maps upside down on purpose? Trying to make this hard for me? :flip

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  4. Geek

    Geek oot & aboot

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    I'm going to leave Friday as it is.. I appreciate the offer and might incorporate it next year.

    1) Start of the ride.. simple navigation and easy road so everyone gets their group mojo going
    2) I'm too lazy to redo all the farkin' maps :D

    :freaky
  5. Geek

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    Saturday Starts @ Echo Park and Finishes @ Lodore...

    Those routes are all after Lodore.

    Should be go straight to Lodore.. unload all of our gear.. and the go have some fun?
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    Found your post 339 with lots of options Norm.. mapping them now :freaky
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    That is what I would do.. Unless someone wants to head upto The Utah end of the park, Jarvie Ranch, Clay Basin,Cold Springs Mtn, Irish Canyon, Lodore. I could show them that. I will have some hard copies of the area for folks of areas of interest. They can decide from there.
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    sent you back a couple more....I will be away from the computer at 3:40- 6:30 ish. Have open gym for basketball.
  11. Geek

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    Summary: The objective Friday is to end up in Echo Park campground in Dinosaur National Monument.

    The route has us criss-crossing HWY 40 - paved to Dinosaur. If you have any type of technical problems that delay you, you can re-route yourself on these paved routes to get to Echo Park quicker (if daylight is running out).

    There are two ways into Echo Park.
    We are coming into Echo Park from the East along a road called the "Yampa Bench". It is basically 60 miles of dirt road filled with epic views, some sand washes, some mud, etc. starting at Elk Springs (There is NO fuel in Elk Springs). The other way in is from the west which is a 13 mile dirt road of switch backs dropping down from the paved road in Dinosaur National Monument (that starts in Dinosaur, Co). If you get behind schedule and need a quicker (and safer) way to Echo Park - re-route yourself to this way in. There is gas in the town of Dinosaur.


    I have broken the route into 3 parts:

    Friday Part 1: Craig to Meeker
    Distance: 50 miles.

    Official Starting Location is Norms Driveway.
    Post with info on Norm's house: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18487940&postcount=91

    Kickstands up @ 9am.

    I'm having us start relatively late to gives folks commuting into the starting location a little more time. We don't have to be on the road quite as early as last year as we're starting in Craig instead of Steamboat.

    From Craig to Meeker is about 50 miles. Easy dirt road paralleling the paved road (if you miss the start.. run the pavement to Meeker and catch us there). Nice easy ride to start the day and let the group dynamics start to balance out.

    MEEKER IS THE LAST CIVILIZATION FOR 24 HOURS.
    Get gas. Get water. Get provisions. You will not have another chance until Saturday morning.

    Google Map of Craig to Meeker:
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=205692861515072629622.0004c0a1ee8d603307e55&msa=0

    Google Earth and GPX tracks are available for download here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnodv29hgewb6j6/Bc5DQBjJcY
    Google earth files are KML
    GPS files are GPX



    Friday Part 2: Crooked Wash
    Distance: 53miles.

    After your Team is finished in Meeker head west on the paved road. Right at the edge of town there is a fork.. you are going to take the right fork (there is a big gas station there.. don't miss it!).

    A few miles up you'll leave the pavement and head up the super fun Crooked Wash. There are quite a few forks and the like.. pay attention to the tracks whenever you come to intersections. I've tried to trace them as accurate as can be so there should be no confusion. There is a water crossing (which if dried up will be a mud bogg or sand wash). It may take team work to get everyone across. I would suggest making sure your team has at least one rope with them just in case.

    Google Map of Crooked Wash:
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=205692861515072629622.0004c0a1f000863c04eaa&msa=0

    Google Earth and GPX tracks are available for download here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnodv29hgewb6j6/Bc5DQBjJcY
    Google earth files are KML
    GPS files are GPX



    Friday Part 3: The Yampa Bench
    Distance 47 miles

    When you arrive at the turn off in Elk Springs it is your last chance to divert. If you are running late.. you might want to consider continuing on pavement to Dinosaur and coming in the paved way. It will take a few hours to run the Yampa Bench in Daylight.. I'm afraid to think how long it would take at night (and you wouldn't see anything so what would be the point?).

    As soon as you head west on the dirt from Elk Springs there is a fork.. stay LEFT. You'd figure it out eventually but thought I'd save you the hassle :D You want 14N - you are on 14 and will come to a choice of 14 vs. 14N.. you want 14N as in NORTH (and it'll be a right fork going NORTH).

    The Yampa Bench is a FUN road. There will be sand washes without warning so keep it in mind if you wick it up a bit.
    Once you get into the scenic bits (you'll know when) I have included in the tracks FOUR of the turn outs. They are easy to miss when you are scooting along having fun.. so you might want to pay attention and slow down a bit so you don't miss them as they are not to be missed! :D

    The second turn out I've marked is the Harding Hole overlook (the great photo opportunity for your bike).
    The GPS coordinates for the Harding Hole Overlook is 40.463376,-108.861811 if you want to create a waypoint for yourself (and to give you an idea of how easy it is to miss it.. I had been there twice before and I missed it last time because I was having fun.. and I was watching for it!)

    After you've done the lookouts on the Bench you'll get into more open area and start to wick it up again. The only thing to keep in mind that you are then looking for an intersection where 14N and CO 156 come together. That right turn onto CO 156 is what drops you down to Echo Park and the campsite. You'll want to take it easy on 156 as there is a good chance there is a subaru coming the other way (and deer).

    If you miss the 156 turn off you start the 13 mile climb out of the canyone with switch backs and the like.. you've gone too far.

    If you using GPS.. just follow the tracks.. I only point out these references as triggers to pay attention.


    Google Map of the Yampa Bench:
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...ll=40.43545,-108.728943&spn=1.303425,1.043701

    Google Earth and GPX tracks are available for download here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnodv29hgewb6j6/Bc5DQBjJcY
    Google earth files are KML
    GPS files are GPX




    Saturday Route:

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    Saturday's route will also have 3 parts.
    We will start in the morning by climbing out of Echo Park (which will be an adventure if it rained over night like last year.. the road is "impassable when wet") and then we'll drop off the west end of the monument and over to Jensen for Gas.

    We'll then head north and up to Swinging Bridge (the ONLY way across the river) and into the Gates of Lodore where we'll drop our camp gear off... and then PLAY TIME in Sand Wash Basin.

    What's Sand Wash Basin you ask?

    Norm: "Sand Wash Basin, has LOADS of stuff. Impossible to get lost. But I will have hard copies of the area for everone. A great place just to see a track and explore. I have been riding out there for 20+ years and still find new stuff."

    Norm recently posted a video of him and his Son riding out there... great fun... and the cool part is no matter how lost you get, you just turn south and you run back into the only road out there.


    Saturday Part 1: Echo Park to Jensen Utah
    Distance: less than 50 miles.

    A scenic morning ride up and out of the canyon, across the monument and then dropping down to Jensen Utah for Gas.

    THIS IS THE DAY'S FUEL AND PROVISIONS! Get what you need there will NOT be another option.

    Google Map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=205692861515072629622.0004c0a690cb9eea82731&msa=0

    Google Earth and GPX tracks are available for download here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnodv29hgewb6j6/Bc5DQBjJcY
    Google earth files are KML
    GPS files are GPX

    Saturday Part 2: Jensen to the Gates of Lodore
    Distance: 74 miles

    Scenic deserted roads taking us up to the historic Swinging Bridge (the ONLY way across the river).
    NOTE: After you cross the swinging bridge pay strict attention to the speed limit.. there is an officer in the area with radar and nothing to do. For that matter.. if he's reading this thread.. he could be hiding anywhere at any time so keep that in mind :D

    It is not far from the Swinging Bridge to the campground - 10 or 15 miles.

    Google Map:
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=205692861515072629622.0004c0a62e443f16771ae&msa=0

    Google Earth and GPX tracks are available for download here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fnodv29hgewb6j6/Bc5DQBjJcY
    Google earth files are KML
    GPS files are GPX

    Saturday Part 3: Play Time! Sand Wash Basin

    :ricky

    We should arrive at Lodore fairly early afternoon. This leave playtime for those who want to go rip up some dirt... or relaxation time for those wanting to save energy for Sunday's big miles... or tourism time for those wanting to take in the many historic sites the area has to offer. Norm has tons of great information on the region.

    From Norm:
    get to Lodore, eat some lunch. Unload, set up tents etc. Then there is Douglas Mtn, I sent a PM to Dave, to see if we can get to the fire lookouton Zenobia Peak. There are some good fun high speed BLM tracks, or you can head North on some technical BLM ATV tracks, rocks, sand etc and go on a loop over Cold Springs Mtn. Vermillion Basin is an option. A northern loop thru Sand Wash back to 318, or just Sandwash OHV. Or the Utah/Cold Springs/Irish Canyon route.

    For those wanting to play: Sand Wash Basin is an absolutely huge area full with single track, dual track and dirt roads. It is massive and you can't get lost.. because at any time you can just turn south and you will hit 318. When you hit 318 you can take it back to Lodore.

    Here's a website on Sand Wash Basin for those that want more info - 154,940 acres!
    http://www.blm.gov/co/st/en/fo/lsfo/programs/wild_horse.html

    and here is a map of it: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/media...e_field/lsfo_maps.Par.24879.Image.-1.-1.1.jpg

    Note that it is bordered by 318 on the south end entirely.
  12. Geek

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    Working on Sunday now.

    Bill has sent me tons of info to digest.. I'm going to piece something together.. perhaps including some of the fun stuff we did last year... and then get his input on it this evening when he's home before posting up the final tracks.

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    It will be a big day. Up early, ride ride ride and camp where ever we are when we feel like stopping :ricky
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    I was stressing having to figure out Sunday's route... it is one thing when I trace cow tracks on the satelite views and find locked gates and dead ends by myself. It's entirely another thing to hand such tracks to 20+ people and end up with a real disaster in the making.

    I just opened the large collection of tracks Bill had emailed me - and to my surprise Bill has served up Sunday's route on a silver platter. From Maybel to the Book Cliffs in 4 fun chunks.

    Insider knowledge of all awesome stuff :thumb

    Thanks Bill!!! :freaky

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    Maps and tracks to come later this evening.

    Maybell to Elk Springs: 31 miles
    Elk Springs to Rangely: 38 miles
    Rangely North: 15 miles
    Rangely South: 60 miles
    Douglas the book cliffs: 70 miles

    Total: 214 miles - but they'll be mostly technical.. so it'll be a full day.
  14. bodhizafa

    bodhizafa How hard can it be?

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    Sunday looks good!

    If 20+ riders run into a locked gate ......... it's an adventure right! No worries :clap
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    Running Dinosaur to Moab in 2010:

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    Hey Geek, thanks for the hard work and details in organizing this ride.
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    bodhizafa How hard can it be?

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    Absolutley! Many thanks.
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    I just spent a bit with Bill on the phone and the route he put together for Sunday is going to be :tb

    It has some of everything and takes us about as far from anywhere as you can get these days.
    We'll run the base of cliffs..
    we'll run canyons..
    we'll run ridges..
    we'll run sand washes.
    It's going to be a hoot... can't wait! :ricky

    For those who are looking to head home Sunday - if you don't have to be home until late Sunday night I'd seriously consider running the first half of the day with us. We will intersect 139 a couple of times as we criss-cross and at any time you could jump on that and go due south to Fruita - and then booger home from there (just throwing the idea out there).

    Those sticking with the full day Sunday we'll just grab a random field at the base of the Book Cliffs like last year and sleep like babies.

    er... assuming you haven't pissed Paul off :rofl

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    I think I may just tag along awhile Sunday, I just need to get back to Craig before dark. But probably leave when we cross 139 and head back to Meeker, then Ripple Creek Pass, to Craig.