2012 Hoosier National Forest Fall Ride Oct. 27-28

Discussion in 'Central – From Da Nort Woods to the Plane States' started by Woodsrat, Apr 28, 2012.

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What date would you prefer for the 2012 HNF ride?

  1. October 6-7

  2. October 13-14

  3. October 20-21

  4. October 27-28

  5. Ain't picky, gonna be there regardless

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  1. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    The Hoosier National Forest Fall Ride--October 27-28, 2012, starting at the McDonald's just east of downtown Nashville, Indiana on IN 46. Start times will be:


    Saturday, October 27--10:00 AM E. S. T.

    Sunday, October 28--9:00 AM E. S. T. from Rocky Point

    (There has been some confusion between this event and The Totally Unofficial Hoosier National Forest Camp Out/Rally two weeks later on November 9-10-11. They are two different gatherings. Please make a note of this.)

    (Please note that Perry County, Indiana where Tell City and Derby are located is in the Central time zone so set your alarm clocks accordingly.)

    For those who chose to do so we will rendezvous at the intersection of IN 37/IN 70 at the State Highway Garage briefly at 9:30 or thereabouts before heading back north since folks will be staying all over the area and may not want to go south to Rocky Point for the "official" starting point.


    Please note that there is no parking or gasoline available at the Sunday rendezvous point.

    Day #1 will be about 188 miles to the finish at Rocky Point (junction of IN 66/IN 166) with 160 miles to Derby and the cabins where a lot of folks are staying. Gas is available at 70 (Fayetteville) and 100 miles (French Lick).

    Day #2 is about 164 miles from Rocky Point back to Nashville with gas available at 43 (Birdseye), 66 (French Lick) and 156 (Pikes Peak). Note that it is 90 miles from the second to third gas available so plan accordingly. There is gas available about 1/2 mile off the route near Judah at the intersection of IN 37 & old Indiana 37. This should be about halfway between French Lick and Pikes Peak for you folks with small tanks.

    Ethanol-free gasoline is available at Rocky Point.

    The long-awaited track log was kindly put into the"Laying Down Tracks" forum by tpar1220 and can be found here:


    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834710

    mbabc has graciously posted the route at the following site for viewing. It includes a graph showing the altitude gains/losses (a whopping 534 feet!) as well as the four legs on a map:

    http://ridewithgps.com/users/36879/routes


    Started by alpiv and RoadDad in '07 traditionally it's been a north-south route leading from south-central Indiana to an overnight stop at Tell City (although one year it was at Corydon).

    However, with RoadDad on the "injured reserve" list his much anticipated east-west route will have to wait until next year. That being said it will again be a "traditional" north-south route through the Hoosier National Forest.

    Information about this ride will be here on this post and constantly updated so you won't have to dig through the entire thread to get information about this annual gathering.

    For those of you coming from out of the area Nashville, IN is known as a tourist destination and might appeal to your other half in the event you're having a hard time justifying the money to come to the ride that weekend. You can leave them there with your credit card, go for a ride and make it a weekend for both of you (that you'll pay for later).

    Motels in Tell City:

    Ramada Inn Limited (812) 547-3234
    Holiday Inn Express (812) 547-8363
    Days Inn (812) 547-3474

    There are ten motels in Nashville, IN. Google "motels nashville indiana" for info.

    The route will go by the Federal campgrounds at Buzzard's Roost and German Ridge. There is also camping available at Twin Lakes Cedar Cabins ($10 a spot). Rocky Point will be the site of the Saturday evening meal and the "official" finishing point of Day #1. If you plan to eat with us at Rocky Point please PM me so that we can give them a rough count of how many heads there'll be to feed.

    Having a map of the Hoosier would be handy to have even if you have a GPS. The '12 route will be able to be seen entirely on this map and they're up to date, on waterproof paper and cost ten bucks. Send cash, check or money order (payable to "USDA Forest Service") to:

    Hoosier National Forest
    811 Constitution Ave.
    Bedford, IN 47421

    Questions? Ask them in the thread or PM me.


    Here's a link to last year's ride with reports starting on page 41:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673959

    Links to past HNF Fall Rides are on page 4, post #58 of the thread you're currently wasting company time reading.
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  2. oPAULo

    oPAULo jack of all terrain

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    Attention chain lube ninja's: Please keep the chain lube off my rear wheel and rotor this year. Thanks.

    Love,

    Paul
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  3. RoadDad

    RoadDad n13ub

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    Woodsrat and you other Inmates-------I'm heading to North Carolina with Backmarker and friends for a week and then down to Mississippi for Sam's Ride on the 18th. During the week between these rides i'll try to give you a general idea of the route and a date. But no promises------------its 5 months till the ride:lol3
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  4. TripleThreat719

    TripleThreat719 Track Addict ADV Wannabe

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    I've read through the 2011 thread and may be able to join in on the 2012 ride.

    In giving consideration to this ride, I would need to choose between bikes. A 2003 KTM 640 Adventure shod with Pirelli Scorpions or a 2009 Husqvarna TE 310 Shod in knobbies.

    What percentage of the ride is pavement? (Perhaps this is unknown given a possible East/West route for 2012)
    What is the largest distance between fuel stops? (As is, the Husky is only good for about 85 miles on a tank)
    What types of speeds are typical? (The gearing on the Husky makes it happy at 45, a little winded at 55, and screaming at 65)

    The 640 is more than capable on single track, but it wears you out after a while. I did the Buffalo 500 and the LBL 200 on it, so it is plenty capable. The Husky really shines in a single track situation and is a hoot to ride in the gravel.

    Looking at the pictures from last year, it seems that most of the ride is what I would classify as adventure touring, rather than dual sport riding. For the record, riding a fully laden big bore bike on asphalt back roads and gravel roads does not qualify as adventure touring in my mind since that can be done on a big cruiser as well. There has to be something in the mix that would make it impossible on a cruiser for it to be considered adventure touring to me.

    It appears that the 640 would be the best bike for this ride, especially considering comfort for long days in the saddle... but that little 50 on the 2011 ride creates confusion for me...

    Thoughts?
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  5. hilljak

    hilljak Hayseed

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    FYI,

    If the start is gonna be close to Bedford, I can offer up the farm for a pre-ride cookout/dinner, bonfire get together so on and so forth...

    Plenty of room for trucks, trailers, campers, tents or barnsleepers...
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  6. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    Dunno how long you've been in Indiana or how much riding you've done here but sadly this ain't exactly an off-road riders' paradise. You are correct in that a majority of the riding done on this annual ride is done on paved and gravel roads and prior to owning a big dually thumper I used to do my backroad exploration on whatever big street bike happened to be in the barn. Dually bikes make it a lot easier on gravel, though.

    That being said RoadDad surprises us all with what he finds to add to this annual romp through southern Indiana. This makes selecting a suitable mount for the ride difficult. Do you go with a big, comfortable bike with smooth tires that makes the grinds down the road easy or ride a pukka street-legal dirt bike with knobbies that'll make quick work of his "special" sections? For those of us with multiple bikes it makes for a tough decision. For others it's a lot simpler and they just run what they brung.

    As I've said before this is an annual "gathering of the tribes", a chance for the loonies who hang out here on ADVrider to get together, go for a ride and draw the ire of the locals who think we're invading their turf and call the C. O.'s (see HNF Ride 2010). Indiana will never be the Appalachians or the Rockies but everyone who shows up has a good time and for the most part knew what they were getting into when they decided to join this little motorcycle flash mob.

    Personally I think it's incredible what RoadDad comes up with.

    As far as the little 50 on the 2011 ride it confused me, too...
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  7. johnson357

    johnson357 Bad Monkey Racing

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    I'm in....going to try both days this year.:freaky
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  8. TripleThreat719

    TripleThreat719 Track Addict ADV Wannabe

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    Been here all my life. Grew up in Greencastle, went to ISU for college, Lived and worked for a short time in Brazil while going to college, then bought a house in Terre Haute. Moved to Columbus and was there for 8 years. Spent a year in Crown Point and then moved to Crawfordsville. Was there for 7 years and have been in Bloomington now for 7 years...

    I'm aware of the limitations of off road riding in Indiana, unless you break some laws, go to an off road park or know someone with some property.

    Looks like the 640 would be the way to go... As much as I would like to ride the Husky, seems more practical to take the bigger bike on a trip like this.

    The Husky is a blast in the HNF gravel and down around the lake, but it isn't too happy on the pavement.

    I would say it is less happy on the pavement than the 640 is less happy in any single track that might be included on a trip such as this...
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  9. mbabc

    mbabc Curmudgeon trainee

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    Always a great time. Count me in too.
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  10. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    One of my closet fascinations are the Vetter Economy Runs that are happening again after about a quarter-century layoff (http://www.craigvetter.com). Some really wild machines have been built and one year a fellow managed to get 470 MPG out of a specialized streamliner. Vetter calls these events "racing for the right reasons."

    Unfortunately the machines weren't all that practical but gave us an idea of what was possible. Vetter revised his formula for the latest events and now requires competitors to be able to haul four bags of groceries without damage. His goal is to get people thinking about practical machines that would get far better mileage than what's currently available. Motorcycles frankly are a bit embarrassing right now with many cars getting 30-40 MPG on the road and their ability to carry four people in reasonable comfort. By comparison bikes are generally considered doing well to get 50 MPG.

    Some of the guys here are already keeping track of the mileage they get with their dually bikes and it's been pretty impressive. With the HNF ride coming up I had the dumb idea of an informal competition during the ride to see who could get the best mileage. There'd be nothing but bragging rights on the line but I wanted to bounce this off of you and see if anyone else would be interested in doing this. Obviously we'd have to use an honor system and not get our tanks topped off without a record of what we put in and the miles we rode but I think it would be kind of interesting and get more of us thinking about ways of getting the most out of those valuable petrochemicals we put in our tank.

    Anyway I wanted to toss this out for you to ponder. The floor's open for discussion...
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  11. Small's

    Small's Been here awhile

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    Ride the husky! Last year there was alot of bikes below 400cc. I rode the TW along with two others and i hit reserve between 75-85miles. I think there were 2 sherpa's, a handful of wr250's, a xt250 and others. Heck woodsrat rode a pit bike.
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  12. godwinmt

    godwinmt They call me Crash

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    Little bikes are definitely fun on the ride...I had my little DR last year and had an absolute blast! That's not to say though that you can't have fun on a big bike though. I drug a friend with an FZ6 to it after someone said in the thread last year that anyone competent could do the ride on a gold wing...he made it (albeit some close calls) and had a blast doing it.

    I'm definitely in though this year. I'll be on the bigger DR, but it'll still be a blast!
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  13. oPAULo

    oPAULo jack of all terrain

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    out.....
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  14. Backmarker

    Backmarker Long timer

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    Time to break out the Husky.:clap After 500 mile days with Roadad going to N.C. and back this should be cake! I"m also in for the least mpg if anyone wants to play...:D p.s. If we"re following Roadad it"s best to pack a saw....:deal
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  15. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    Paul's got that one aced. He leaves his float bowl drain about half open thinking he's flushing his carb out so he won't have to clean it...
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  16. Kevinj110

    Kevinj110 पवित्र गाय

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    I think I may have to give it a go on the Versys.
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  17. oPAULo

    oPAULo jack of all terrain

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    I easily get 50 on the highway. It's a lot of on/off that kills my mileage.
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  18. KneeKicker

    KneeKicker Long timer

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    you mean on/off the throttle right?
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  19. oPAULo

    oPAULo jack of all terrain

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    Well, yeah. That too.:D
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  20. Woodsrat

    Woodsrat Gone ridin'

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    Bumpety-bump. Maybe RoadDad is willing to share a few of his ideas for this year?
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