2012 KTM 350 freeride

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  1. Gryphon12

    Gryphon12 Long timer

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    I may be wrong, but I don't think it is about US demand right now - it's all about circumstances:
    • First, there is a slow economy, world-wide, which typically hurts small volume, expensive, niche products,
    • then there is limited production capacity for KTM (as a smaller company), and the Freeride is a low production item for KTM,
    • then there is strong demand for the Freeride in other countries where KTM does business more easily,
    • then there is greatest strength in the India / Asia market (e.g. new Duke 125/200/390), and
    • finally there is the typical mis-match between US dealers and KTM Austria (HQ).
    On top of it all, many (most?) US dealers don't even know what the Freeride is, let alone how to market it at a premium price tag - most US riders aren't as educated as those of us on this board - most want bigger / badder 500's and 690's.

    So, with Bajaj providing capital and production facilities for a rising Asian market, and marketing dollars going to the new 1290 Super Duke and Adventure (bigger margin products), the Freeride gets lost in the clutter for the US market.

    Maybe we'll see it in a year or so, if the economy continues to get stronger and 1290 production (all models) has ramped up for a 3-4 year model run.

    Just my $0.02.
  2. One67

    One67 Tell 'em the captain sent ya.

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    I have felt your pain, I put my deposit down and waited 6 months for them to arrive in Australia.
    The first shipment arrived in September and consisted of only 20 bikes for the whole country, I missed out.
    Had to wait another 2 months, just got mine last week.
  3. straightrod

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    ^ Well God's sake tells us about it!:clap
  4. lamotovita

    lamotovita Ageing Adventurer

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    How much cash ya got in yer hand?
  5. One67

    One67 Tell 'em the captain sent ya.

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    I'm going up to the state forest tomorrow for a good ride, so will get a bit of a review up after that .
  6. mwalker

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    Plenty
  7. Steveman

    Steveman Been here awhile

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    You will love it. promise.

    There are 4 things to think about. First, that it has less than 30 hp is something which is negative when sitting together with yer mates having a beer. In real world it plays no role when you buy and use the bike what its built for. Single trails, narrow and tough stuff, exactly that trails where your mates waste power and condition with their 500 exc's. They are faster on cross country racing, desert racing and MX but the Freeride isnt made for that kinda sports.

    Second, the 5 liter tank is a mess but as you say two 1,5 liter bottles strapped to the back of the bike will help. And dont worry it will not break as long as you dont put more than 10 kgs (approx 20 lbs) on. It is definitely a super tuff bike although it does not look like one. More about that see below.

    Third, it is damn expensive as alll KTM's are. But this you may handle with your christmas bonus :D

    And in fourth place, it needs way too much maintenance. Like the EXC's it is called a "competition bike" by KTM which means oil and filter change every 10 hours, valve check every 20 hours and so on. This is expensive and it is boring, especially when you take a look at the warranty card which states that for competition bikes you have only 30 days (!!!)
    But, if you do the first service at the dealer and he enters that in the dealer network you can expect KTM to be acommodating. At least sometimes... And the maintenance hours stated in the manual are for competition use and can be doubled when the bike is not used for competition.

    The idea behind the bike is to hve a tool for the real tough stuff which will not exhaust you. I had a 450 EXC and its over 50hp were nice to have. But I think in 100 hours of use I had gears 5 and 6 only used twice on connection roads and farm tracks. In all the tuff stuff the boyz with the big "real" endurobikes have the throttle valve open 15 degrees, meaning they use maybe 15% of the power available. This makes it difficult when traction is bad in the wet on wet stones or just mud or wet surface.
    The freeride is so easy to handle that you wont believe it. It is silent they say, it sounds like if a big dog farts. I know, but the idea behind is to not attract attention especially when you ride where it is not allowed (everywhere where I live) :D

    It is a toy and it is not tuff I heard them big enduro boyz sayin'.

    Bullshit, it is super tuff, Brandauer the 12 times Austrian trials champion and Husaberg factory rider became second in Austrias legendary Stone Eater Enduro Race and this guy is big and weighs 300lbs plus! Check this video (the bike is completely standard)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-20xs65ct7o

    BTW, Brandauer is a top 20 finisher in Hells Gate, Erzberg and Romaniacs which are the toughest enduro races in the world. He quit with Husaberg and will do the next Romaniacs Enduro World Championship race on -guess what bike ?
    Yes, it will be the first appearance of a factory supported Freeride in such a tough race.

    Try one and tell me what you think :freaky

    Cheers
    Steve
  8. jon_l

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    Cool video!

    Brandauer is not running trials tires in the video, even though for what he is doing, I bet they would work better.
  9. Steveman

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    Well, I have no clue what Brandy said about them but I talked to another guy who swapped the trials tires against pure MX tires and he said he swapped back. Surprised me somehow. He said the trials are better everywhere except in deep sand and mud of course. And if you drive slant up or downhill in wet grass the front end slips and off you go.... No lugs on the sidewall like MX tires.

    This guy also tried to switch to MX tires. Well its a long vid and am not sure which language he speaks :D
    but its interesting what he says about the knobbies, you would not expect that. The guy is a good rider as far as I can see.
    Listen what he says at 5:45 and from 6:15 t0 7:15.
    Needless to say he did not use MX tires again.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFksQyFqRss

    Cia
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  10. jon_l

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    Looks like sticky stuff, and not enough speed to clean out the knobbies.
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    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] Sorry. I know I dwarf the poor thing, but skinny me even dwarfs the adventure. It was my third trip. Already so easy I have to expand territory.

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    But hey, I only did 75km's on 4.3ltr (enter fuel warning light) giving it some stickĀ… Need the Mojavi
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  12. milzispete

    milzispete who did what where?

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    They arrive at last. Akrapovic exhaust now available. Part no 72005979000. Ask Santa early while stocks last
  13. One67

    One67 Tell 'em the captain sent ya.

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    659 pounds :eek1, I'd expect them to double the horse power and keep all the down low torque for that.

    I'll just pull the gauze out of the stockos.
  14. Gryphon12

    Gryphon12 Long timer

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    Get a life! It's a hybrid Trials / trail bike. Save the Akra money and just buy a 350 XC-W if you want more power. That's NOT the misson for this bike. The American "bigger is better" BS is now polluting the entire planet!

    I know, I know, you just can't fight this attitude. So, go for it, but Don't Complain about a lack of power on the stock bike when that's not its mission!
  15. One67

    One67 Tell 'em the captain sent ya.

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    +1
  16. milzispete

    milzispete who did what where?

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    I think you are missing the point of an Akra pipe. They are all about looking cool, sounding loud and bullshitting with your friends about how it totally transformed the bike. It's just the done thing
  17. Gryphon12

    Gryphon12 Long timer

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    Oh, now I get it. We are now all about making an entrepreneur from the former Soviet Block a very rich man in the name of current "style". And here I thought I only had to deal with that attitude from my women folk!
  18. milzispete

    milzispete who did what where?

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    Touratech haven't done too bad out of bling either. Once I've bolted another 50kg and spent the original price of the bike on 'essentials' I can put a BMW badge on it, re-name it a Freeriden and buy the matching Swarovski nipple pasties.I'm still not buying a bigger tank though as I'm adamant 90Km is plenty
  19. ktmmitch

    ktmmitch Been here awhile

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    We were asked to look at making more fuel capacity for the FR when launched in UK,and to us,the most obvious way would be to ditch the right silencer,make a 2 into 1 Y piece for the exhaust,then replace the right silencer with a plastic-moulded 2/3 litre fuel tank that would connect into the existing fuel system,similar to our idea for the KTM 690 tank kits we produce.
    2 silencers is more for show than power ,and the advantage of a bit more fuel is probably more important than a balanced silencer view from the rear.
  20. lamotovita

    lamotovita Ageing Adventurer

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    Are you sure the two mufflers don't have anything to do with making the bike quiet?