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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by Visigothic, Apr 27, 2011.
No offense intended, but that's kinda what it looks like...
thats what what looks like?
edit: you mean the price is what it looks like?........I suppose so, if that is what you mean. Unfortunately, my meager budget only allows so much, and being that I can build something for $10 that does the same thing as the $135 item.....well......I'll build it.
I've noticed that you have some extensive fabrication skills, very nice. I used to be a Pirate groupie as well, but since my 4Runner has gone away, I'm on to the bikes now......
You know we love you man but he has a point. But I am with you, especially on the price of two Con rods like what you see out of a car and a peice of metal rod. HA!
the sad thing here is th the price. with today's tech. some facbricators still gouge the fire out of people like in this case. You could get a HWYDIRTBIKES top clamp from Paul for half that and have a great mounting point that is way less obtrusive.
It cracks me up when these guys say "well you have setup and design work involved". Come on fella's I used to do this stuff the old school way with a bridgport knee mill and yes that took time. Even then it was blue layout fluid and scribe in a mark and then cut it out and mic the tolerances. This this was done on a CNC with little or no effort by man. Most of these folks are just trying to recoupe the cost of there equipment ASAP so they gouge everyone. There arent many reputable guys left.
HWYDIRTBIKES and CJDESIGNS are a dying breed. I wish there were more folks like them but unfortunatley there are not.
"my meager budget" when you are sporting a 200.00 cot for sleeping while on the trial.
I use the ground.
look at the sixth picture down.
I currently ride a WR250R and am looking for something with less weight and more power. Strongly conconsidering the 500EXC as my next bike to replace the WR. I've never owned a KTM and so I'd be interested in learning more as to why this will be your last KTM and what your current thoughts are as to your next dual sport bike will be.
LOL, yeah, I hear ya.
Well, I suppose I don't have the skills to build a quality cot like the LuxeryLit Cot, but I can certainly build a mount for the GPS.
LOL, meager budget.....well, maybe I should say that arm-wrestling the wife for the money is more the challenge....
Please elaborate on why this will be your last KTM.
When I was looking for a Dual-Sport bike, I purchased the WR250R based upon the following criteria:
6-speed, for the highway speed
Aluminum Frame for weight saving
Single track capable AND Dual-Sport capable
Large Aftermarket support
The WR250R is a very capable bike. It meets all of the criteria above, and does a great job of getting you to places and back. Its very capable of taking abuse, and pushes on despite the abuse.
The ONE big thing that persuaded me to move on to the 500EXC was the overall lack of power on the WR250R.
Last year I was in an event that never happend, and I quickly realized that if I wanted to run with the larger bore bikes, I had to spend most of the engine time in the higher RPMs. The first and second day were real eye-openers for me in terms of what a rally is like. The third day I decided to really push the bike and see what I could do on the little bike. I was able to keep up, and at times even passed a few of the larger bikes, but I felt like I was pushing too hard; pushing myself and the bike. At one point, I was pretty much tapped out at 72mph, when a larger bore KTM came flying by me like I was nearly sitting still. Despite my dust trail behind me, the KTM rider came up on me so quick and passed me equally as quick......seriously, I jumped off my seat. :eek1
So, I decided that I need to look for another bike that could give me some legs on the open road, AND yet provide me with the exhilaration of the tight single track. Again, I need to establish a criteria so that I wasn't going at this half-cocked.
450cc or larger
Aluminum frame (or lightweight bike)
Single track capable AND Dual-sport capable
Large Aftermarket support
After looking around for some time, and talking to several different riders of different bikes. I talked and listened to a rider named FORE! about KTMs. This guy knows his bikes, and he is an excellent rider. He stated the following: "everything I've thrown at the KTM, it has taken". This guy can ride! Hearing that from him, made me a believer. Seeing races such as the Romaniacs, with their KTM bikes made me a believer in the toughness of the bikes. Seeing them in the Dakar......well, you get the idea.
After looking over the KTM bikes, I heard about the up-n-coming 500EXC. New engine, new FI, new frame, new this and that. Well, I do have some pretty good mechanical skills, and thought that whatever I run into, I'd like to fix it myself so that I know how to fix it in the future. Some may take issue with the "reliability" of this NEW 500EXC motor. Yes, its new, but lets take a broader look into the KTM history. They are good bikes. Fuel Injection is the future, and not having to re-jet the bikes is simple awesome, and easy. This 500EXC is actually lighter than the WR250R, which is a welcome attribute.
As for this being my last KTM bike, well.....considering the price of these bikes, I don't intend on purchasing another KTM. I believe this bike has the power to shred single-track trails, sand hills, mud, and can still move down the highway at a nice comfortable clip. This bike has everything I have wanted in a dirt bike AND A Dual-sport bike. Yes, I've added a few things; better lights, 12V power outlets, etc, but as the core machine goes, it has it where it needs it.
In summary, this KTM is lighter, stronger (frame), more powerful (easy wheelies in the mud), faster than the WR250R and certainly way more fun to ride than the WR250R.
My next bike will be a Yamaha Super Tenere. My wife loves to ride along with me, and well, the KTM is just not suited for two up. So, the Super Tenere will be excellent for both of us, AND it will be great for me when i want to take a longer ride through the the mountains.....
Looks like you answered my question while I was typing so I will change my question to how is the comfort of the500EXC compared to the WR250R on the highway for a couple hours?
Has anyone else put on a Lynx Fairing yet or equivalent?
Are you sure about the A/C vs D/C. The lights on my 500 are clearly D/C --easy to tell as it lights up without the bike running. So you should be able to use the LED's for the high beam indicator and the turn signal will work with the use of a couple of diodes and the additon of a ground source.
Well, I'm pretty sure, I can't say 100% sure, but I tried the LED lights......no worky. I don't have a FSM yet, so I can't say with definity that this is the case, but.....well, I'll know more when I get a FSM in my hands.
Paul from HDB or Harcus or Zuber (in this thread) can probably elaborate more on this issue.
Couple of hours....no problem. A few hours to 6 hours....ouch. I had the AlaskaLeather Sheepskin cover and I was still hurting. I definitely want to get my seat fixed up by Fisherseats or some other manufacturer.......at the end of the long riding day, I was really hurting.....
I don't know if anybody has fitted a Lynx Fairing to this bike yet. My experience with the Lynx fairing was marginal at best. While they do make a "neat" product that will work great for a street bike.....a dirt bike needs a stronger fairing. I had the Lynx Fairing on my WR250R. After a fall-over dump in a creek, the adjustable plexiglass section broke into some rather jagged sections of plastic. This could be fatal if you wreck and end up having this material go into vital organs. As well, the fiberglass material is not up to par for dirt bikes. Again, I wrecked, and this time I crushed the fiberglass. Fixing this stuff is not trivial. Now, having a dirt bike, I know I'm going to wreck, its just a matter of when, not if. Given this fact, I need to have something that is "much" more flexible and forgiving upon impact. While the Lynx fairings are very cool for sporting HID lights, in my opinion they are too fragile for dirt-bike use.
If I had a truly Dual-sport bike, F800GS or KLR650, than, yes, the Lynx Fairing would be great. I would not be expected to get crazy and be crashing that type of bike that often.
anyhow.......just my two cents on the Lynx fairing, considering I used to have one....
Thanks for the input, you have answered my questions. I was afraid I had overlooked something when you stated this would be you last KTM...I now understand. My pursuit of the 500 EXC can now happily continue!
I think you will be pleasantly surprised by this bike. I know I am. I took the bike out through some mud and was shocked to see the front wheel coming up on me, even with the rear tire spinning in the mud. I've had a WR250F, WR250R and several street bikes. This KTM 500 EXC has the most power of any bike I've had.............well, maybe the M109R2 was more powerful, but it was also heavier too.
Excellent summary. Oh, and one more thing, the 500EXC now has only one oil filter to dea with and comes with a radiator fan....
Thanks for the info.
Does anyone have a good phone number or email for Acerbis so I can let them know I would like a 4 gallon gas tank? The 3.5 might work for me but I would feel better about 4 gallons.
My local KTM dealer wants $311. for the KTM 13L gas tank. Has anyone gotten a better price on one of these gas tanks?
Acerbis contact - Brian Fullerton [Brian.F@acerbis.com]
information on the KTM tank that's about what they are everywhere
Have you not ever heard of the KING of the ORANGE Beasts called an Adventure. Obviously you have not had a sufficiant drink of the Orange koolaide or you wouldnt be speaking such such blasphemy above!
I have pleanty of buddys that ride with a pillon all the time and love it.
Well thats what you get for sleeping on a soft cot instead of the hard ground you can even beat your wife arm-wrestling.
I got this email from Brian Fullerton at Acerbis
Do you plan on making a 6gal tank for the new 2012 KTM 500 exc like the one for the older 530exc?
We will only have a 5.3 gal and a 3gal due in April."
This isn't to say they wont make a 6 gal later but as of now this seems to be it. VG