2012 ktm 500 exc?

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  1. LukasM

    LukasM Long timer

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    KTM, RAD Mfg, Haan Wheels and Talon all make cush drive hubs for KTMs. I'd skip the Talon because of the weaker cushion rubbers, the other three all use the same rubbers (at least they look the same to me) so it's a question of bling vs. cost... Figure $400-$500 for hub, sprocket carrier, and rubbers.

    You can also try to find a used wheel from a 640 LC4 Adventure or Enduro (not 690), they had cush drive hubs stock and will fit any EXC. However they used silver DID rims (pretty good) and later ones black Behr rims (weak), so not optimal if you like to match your 500 EXC rim color.

    I do think the 660 Rally came with a cush hub and a black Excel rim, I have one of those here and that's what I was told it was from. Unfortunately not too many of those around...
  2. Lulu7404

    Lulu7404 Been here awhile

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    Cush hub, not crush hub. Next time you need a new back tire on that zx14, pull off your sprocket. I bet ya a beer, you will see a cush hub. I could be wrong but my Tiger had one, and I think most street bikes have them... allows a little give from the torque on the output shaft. Too much wheel spin in the dirt to bother I would assume. So more street time with a dirt bike would increase the stress on the output shaft and make a cush hub a good idea. Long term.

    edit: i type too slow
  3. LukasM

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    Yup, that's it. :deal
  4. SteveO

    SteveO ouch....

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    ok, this is about my speed. I think if I go this route, I may try to find a wrecked one, or maybe find one on fleabay.....

    right now, I'm in dire need of a larger tank, so that has to come first....
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  6. SteveO

    SteveO ouch....

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    HOW much??
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    Part#92161 DAMPER,SHOCK,RR HUB

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  8. ridethedesert

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    The instructions say the controller is pre-programmed with a recommended setting as delivered. It really comes alive with the settings they put it at. I'm just leaving it at that. Their are 2 pages of instructions for tuning if you would like to change them. You can change Idle fuel, Low, Mid, and High (accelerator pump).

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  9. ridethedesert

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    They are the Avon Gripster AM24 Tires. The fronts are still available, for some reason they discontinued the 18 inch rear. They are good for the street and light dirt. I primarily use them for when I'm riding around town. Shinko makes some good tires. I wish the US would import Maxxis Dual Sport tires.
  10. ridethedesert

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    Yes the tuner just changes the fuel injection/mapping. You can run a switch with the tuner. The tuner plugs in at the fuel injection body, electrical connector in the stock wiring harness and a ground wire.

    The tuner plugs in under the seat. Run them both.
  11. ridethedesert

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    I got the Excels on closeout for $615 for both the front and the rear. The front Sicass LED's are really easy. It's one bolt and plug. It was weird though that you have to rewire the indicator bulb to get the flasher to work properly. I'd never seen that before.
  12. ridethedesert

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    I think Talon makes a cush drive rear hub/sprocket combo. In my thoughts it can't hurt to get the extra cush in the rear, but I think that was the point of the new Brembo clutch. Why else would it have a cushion? Maybe to save wear on parts?
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    Got my RLR CRT in the mail today. The guy I met had installed his on the rear left side panel. I didn't like that because it could get hit by the rear tire and you could see the bolts/rivets on the side panel. I chose to put mine inside the air box. Hose routing actually worked out really well.

    (Yes I know this is a run on sentence)...
    I followed the breather hose for the fuel cap, then shot behind the frame over the rear shock, drilled a hole through the white airbox plastic, there was a nice black carrier inside as if ktm knew the hose was coming, wrapped it down around the air filter to the bottom of the tank, then out the top and over the battery back down and out the vent hole on the bottom of the air box.

    Anytime I filled the radiator so just the fins are covered inside, it will spill out through the overflow. All over my clutch case and my boots. Enough of that. This cost me $31 and should help keep more coolant in the system for those single track, Snowy Trail, days.

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    For those who may be interested, I mounted the 6x tuner on the air box panel/plastic. JD recommends the front right frame or the number plate. I don't want anyone seeing it so I like this spot better. It came with velcro so you can separate it from the panel if needed. I had to remove the factory sticker to mount the velcro. It wasn't water proof anyway. It already looked like crap.

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    EK I would love to hear personally how they work for you.
    This sounds very similar to a plug-in for the Triumph Tiger I traded for this bike. I hope so.
    And the link to the Oregon site at the end of that great TT thread, is E-Ticket, the guy I mentioned up a few posts... he mirrored his thread from ktmt. may shoot him a PM while we are on topic. :freaky

    edit: and ridethedesert, thanks again for your contributions as well. I would love to hear your opinions of off idle, mild mannered riding conditions with the tuner. thanks
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    Lots :eek1, but I got a bit back for trading in the rear hub, it was practically new.
  18. Cruz

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    Bought a RAD Cush hub built on an Excel rim for $820aud delivered to Australia from WWW for my Berg.
    You can notice the smoother take up and ride on the bitumen and hard dirt roads.
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    ridethedesert • Yesterday 10:01 PM
    Anyone ever tried or seen these? Its a cush sprocket. I'm not sure I would trust it.

    http://www.kushsprockets.com/sprockets

    Nice find. more research on that one to see if anyone has 1) put any kind of power through one (like 55hp/40 ftlb) and 2) that they at least last long enough for the chain ring to wear out.

    seems like a reasonable price when a steel sprocket is about $45, and one of the Supersprox combo sprockets is $90 or so. This is about $100 and says it has aluminum center section and steel chain ring. I'll see if anyone out there has ever validated the longevity of the 'made in china' quality...
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    http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/879468-kush-sprocket/

    mixed results all over different forums. sounds like a bad first batch of parts (late 2010, early 2011 timeframe). Subsequent better design. Though no one has reported more than 1000 miles. Two guys reported (one at 450 miles, one at 1000) that they were still going strong.

    Plenty reported they were still waiting on their product to be shipped. sounds like a halfway decent product with poor business management... Also, if you think about it, there's just not enough rubber in there to get the job done. Lots of load over a small area = rubber damper separation.

    And then again the other way to look at it is - why spend $10,000 on a machine and skimp on a made in China sprocket! I guess I had to reach down and find my berries for a second. $800 for a rear rim sucks, but a kush sprocket failure that takes out your swing arm would suck worse.