2012 ktm 690 enduro R owners, any major problems ?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by edra, May 13, 2012.

  1. wsmc831

    wsmc831 Been here awhile

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    Well, since you can't get an auto clutch for the 690, it's a mute point.

    My personal experience is its not needed for offroad. I've used an autoclutch/left hand rear brake in my offroad bikes since 02. More than half of those years were spent racing enduros on the west coast/baja. In April I did a long trip in Baja on the 530 where it was beyond reproach. In July I took my newly purchased 10 enduro to the OBCDR, fully loaded, and did very similar riding as I did in Baja.

    The 690 was, simply put, outstanding. In SE Oregon in rock gardens that kept us to a crawl, the motor just will NOT stall out. I was amazed at how well it did in all types of offroad conditions. I would still buy an autoclutch if available, but it really isn't necessary, in my opinion.
  2. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    Mine doesn't stall either, but I am good with the clutch in the slow stuff.

    I finally solved the biggest problem.

    After:
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    Before:
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    Hard to emphasize how bad the stock seat is. It is way too soft and offered no support. I even tried a sheepskin to no avail. Seat Concepts must've lucked into the secret sauce with their seat foam, and then they shaped it to take advantage of it. Lots of support and fairly firm. Brilliant!
  3. ramjet

    ramjet Long timer

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    I think our bikes need some treatment for the upper black shroud. Just seems unfinished. I want to get some kind of graphic made but I suck at creativity. Where are our artistic brethren?
  4. noobinacan

    noobinacan Adventurer

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    doh...Thanks, I'm totally psych'd now about adding this bike to the stable and some diversity on two wheels :drums

  5. wsmc831

    wsmc831 Been here awhile

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    Agreed. They have a tall version coming out as well. Now I have to find a cheap stock seat to give that a try.
  6. FechFech

    FechFech Adventurer

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    Hi Skinny,

    How much better is the steering lock on the '12 model over the '08 model ? I have a '09 model which I like a lot, except for the steering lock (or rather, the lack of it, it has a turning radius like a truck) and the crappy stock suspension. I'm thinking of upgrading to a '12 or '13 model because KTM claim they improved the steering lock. The suspension could be fixed on my bike of course, but I'd rather spend the money for a suspension job on a newer bike with better steering lock.

    Cheers,

    FechFech

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  7. SKINNY

    SKINNY Been here awhile

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    The steering lock is a lot better..
    I noticed the difference as soon as I tried to put the 2012 model in my garage...
    no more bouncing off my truck and my wife's car trying to thread my way between them.
    Suspension is better also
    Same travel as the 08 but much less harsh...
  8. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

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    My suspension was very stiff until it broke in. I did 3 bike bike dual sport rides and that was enough to sweeten the ride. I think it's still on the stiff side in back, but not when I hit a washout or something. Sucks it up nicely.
  9. FechFech

    FechFech Adventurer

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    Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear :-) I guess it's upgrade time soon...

    A few pictures of my current (soon to be old) bike:

    Ready for a rally-raid in Morocco:
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    In the dunes of Erg Chebbi in Morocco:
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    Between Merzouga and Missour:
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  10. sk1d00

    sk1d00 n00b

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    Okay, I guess this counts as a major problem:

    No running lights, brake lights, accessory power, horn, indicators. I have checked fuses 6 and 7 (checked all in fact) and even changed fuses 6 and 7, I've unplugged the battery for a minute (this worked on my car for a past glitch) and unplugged the accessory cable (Garmin GPS62 charger). no joy.

    The bike starts and runs fine but non of the above electricals work.

    When I test rode the bike this issue occurred and the garage fixed it before I picked up the bike (the rear offside indicator was hanging off so I assumed this was breaking the circuit. It ran fine since then but now only 167 miles on the clock it has failed again. Not impressed. I've had lots of KTMs before and apart from a clutch master cylinder issue on my old 990 Adventure (on my way to sell it - it knew I reckon) they have been reliable.

    Any ideas?

    - I'm getting it picked (hopefully) by KTM assistance under warranty and I hope to persuade them to drop it back again FOC when fixed.
  11. TheMuffinMan

    TheMuffinMan Forest Ranger Magnet

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    I'd check the connections on the back end of the fuse block.
  12. Oldbear

    Oldbear Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah

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    Since those circuits both deal with rear lights I'd start by checking the wiring that goes to the tail. It's easy to get the cables pinched when you install the rear plastics and/or grab handle bolts.
  13. sk1d00

    sk1d00 n00b

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    Thanks for the replies guys,

    I had a looked at cables running into rear and the fuse box, no joy. One of the molex connectors was well loose (dunno how that would stay connected off-roading) but still no juice. I'll update once the dealer has fixed but my experience with this official KTM garage and electrics on past bikes has been a disappointment - twisted cables and sealed with electrical tape instead of heat shrink; very shoddy.


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  14. leanin

    leanin Been here awhile

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    What did ktm do to improve the steering lock on the 2012? I've been trying to find the details but haven't found anything. A friend has an '08 and his biggest complaint is the turning radius. I'm trying to find out how the 2012 steering lock was improved and how significant it is.
  15. Yellow Pig

    Yellow Pig Allergic to asphalt!

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    New bottom triple clamp I beleive.
  16. The Letter J

    The Letter J Long timer

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    So how many degrees steering (lock to lock) does it have and how does that compare to the earlier models? I would say that has been my single biggest gripe with my 09 and I would be willing to spend a little bit of money to decrease my turning radius.

    Now that I think of it, my fork tubes touch the frame (actually just the headlight strap that attaches to the fork tubes) just after the lower triple clamp hits the radiator shroud so changing the triple clamp(s) alone wouldn't seem to increase steering lock. Hmm. There must be something more to this, or maybe it's all just smoke and mirrors!
  17. leanin

    leanin Been here awhile

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    STFU I've been riding dirt bikes 42yrs and don't need you telling me steering lock isn't important on tight trails and switch backs.
  18. SKINNY

    SKINNY Been here awhile

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    If you're hitting the radiator shroud, that's all there is...my 08 has maybe 1/2" clearance with the stop bolts screwed all the way in. However, I just adjusted my 12 model yesterday until the left fork hits the shroud and it turns a bunch tighter than the 08. Maybe the triple clamp and shroud are different...According to Rally Raid, there are minor differences in the 2012 frame, but I don't know what that might be...
  19. Bama67

    Bama67 Cooler in real life

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    Hi guys I don't have a dog in the fight, as I don't own anything orange. But I am an obsessive compulsive bike browser and was on KTM Worlds website over in GA, and they have a 2010 690 Enduro R with only 300 miles for $7,995. Seems like a great deal if one of you guys are in the market. FYI.
  20. refokus

    refokus Hmmmmmm

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    Lean it over, gas it and the rear end comes around. :lol3 I try this sometimes and it works but man sometimes I fall down :rofl

    Tell them all to STFU......:lol3 I love hearing from all the pros on this board. Good times. Ok, now time to go back to work :cry