2012 ktm 690 enduro R owners, any major problems ?

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by edra, May 13, 2012.

  1. wsmc831

    wsmc831 Been here awhile

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    So you determine what a proper gripe is?


    Certainly sounds like someone needs to grow up.

    Anyway, thanks for such an insightful contribution to the thread.
  2. modeselector

    modeselector Common as muck

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    Bike is actually a 2010. Sure has looow miles.
  3. dolphins13

    dolphins13 orange rules

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    Hi I'm new to the KTM world.Bought a 99 lc4e about 18 months ago? I would love to replace it before it starts to fall apart. (as all old stuff tends to do) Is the 690 what I am looking for? The local KTM dealer acts like I'm an idiot for not wanting the 500? So all i get is negative things about the 690 from him, and he dosnt carry the 690 like the 500. So maybe thats why he is pushing 500? I have never ridden either. The 690 is what I think I want. Is it too heavy, not hold enough gas, the seats suck? I love my 640. Just want the same thing but newer? THX in advance:ear
  4. wsmc831

    wsmc831 Been here awhile

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    So you are saying that the reduced steering travel only comes into play on a tight track, for everyone? Are you unable to admit the fact that not every rider is exactly like you and that possibly other riders would prefer a smaller radius? Why do you feel you have the right to judge what other people feel is a shortcoming of a bike?

    You claim to not be a keyboard jockey that knocks the shit out of everything, yet you appear to be exactly that.

    I really appreciate your offer to help, but I own 5 bikes and do all work on every single one of them myself exclusively, especially during race season so I doubt you have anything of value to add. Your comment was not meant to help anyone, it was simply your own insecurity manifesting itself by thumping your chest on a forum to proclaim yourself superior. It failed.
  5. Beer'o'clock Baz

    Beer'o'clock Baz Long timer

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    ok :D
    I will un-subscibe to this thread and leave it up to the people who know best - you know the ones there the guys that don't own the bike ;-]
  6. Bama67

    Bama67 Cooler in real life

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    Ooops. I knew that, typo, I will fix it. Still a great deal though for someone in the market.
  7. The Letter J

    The Letter J Long timer

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    Cool story.

    I'm 6'5" and not a wimpy kid, so size and weight are definately not the issue. I ride my 690 like a real dirtbike and can easily pivot turn on UPHILL switchbacks (hell, I can 180* it on the back wheel in just a couple feet) but the 690's steering lock is a big hinderance when descending said switchbacks, especially right handers where brake sliding into it is much more difficult. I've never been bothered by it in any other situation, but that 1 situation (which occurs fairly often) is enough to justify my gripe. That's not to say that the 690 can't do it, but it sure would be easier if it had more steering lock.

    Why would you attack someone's riding abilities over something like complaining about steering lock, when you yourself are an advocate of centrifugal clutches... something that is looked at by many as a band-aid for lack of rider abilities?

    Did you ever think that your 2012 might actually have more steering lock than the earlier models in question so it would not be as big of an issue as with the earlier models? While I own a 2009 model and not a 2012, I did direct my question towards the owners of 2012's in an effort to get some useful (or not) input.

    So I'm just going to " ask what you wana know" :

    "and i will contribute" :ear
  8. clintnz

    clintnz Trans-Global Chook Chaser

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    How far is your average ride? How many miles do you rack up in a year? How gnarly is your terrain? How much stuff do you want to carry?

    If you like the 640 you will like the 690, it manages to be better both on & offroad than the 640 imho.

    A well maintained 640 wont fall apart in a hurry but having done a few thousand miles on a 690 I can fully understand the desire to upgrade :evil

    Cheers
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  9. dolphins13

    dolphins13 orange rules

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    I wanna be able to haul ass on asphalt (10 to 50 miles) on my way to the hardesr dirt riding I can find. I travel light. I

    like to jump and climb really tough hills. So extra baggage sucks for me. Usually means a 100 to 150 total miles of

    riding. I want a 690 bad but the 690 wiki page has a list of like 15 things you gotta do to the bike after you buy it? So

    you guys are spending roughly 10 g's on your bike then a couple more on mods? I am not a rich man. Will have to

    save up for a while. thx for your advice. Now I am reading steering lock problems? I studied my 640 for a good 10

    months before I found one. Was gonna get a dr. I got lucky cause I cant stand my friends dr now since riding my

    bike and I used to think they ruled. I see a 2012 690 in my future. Does anyone ever go back to japanese bikes after riding a ktm? No way I would right now. (Just talking big thumpers)
  10. TheMuffinMan

    TheMuffinMan Forest Ranger Magnet

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    It's more like $850 and not a few thousand for the "necessary" (and necessary depends on your opinion) mods.

    So far I consider the following "necessary":
    Exhaust (FMF Q4)
    KTM radiator guards
    Renazco gas tank filler neck + cap
    A package of zip-ties
    RR tank bolts (upper and lower)
    Seat Concepts Seat

    For what it's worth I've heard of several people buying their 690's for $9,300-9,500 out the door. Just call around to dealers out of state.

    And the steering lock isn't a problem, you'll just have to adjust your riding style to it when doing tight off-roading.
  11. dolphins13

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    Wasnt trying to be rude. I said a couple? not a few? I am trying to understand not mock. All the mods on that list, on the 690 wiki thread. Looked at a quick glance to be about 2000. I could be waay off. was a estimate. thx for your patience. Been ridin 35 yrs but a noob to orange.
  12. TheMuffinMan

    TheMuffinMan Forest Ranger Magnet

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    Oh the wiki thread. I thought you meant the wiki itself which doesn't have much on it yet.

    Anyway, I don't think stuff other then what I listed is really necessary to fix the design issues of the bike. Other things might be nice but aren't a requirement in my opinion. It just depends on what you want to use it for.


    And no worries, your post just made it sound like the bikes require a lot of cash into them to get them sorted. I just don't want people getting scared off by what I feel isn't the case. Sorry if I came off as angered or such; it was not my intent. :freaky
  13. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    5 days in rocky NW Arkansas smoked the original rear in just 1,800 miles on mine.

    The steering lock to lock has never proved to be an issue while I'm riding her. Maneuvering her in the garage-it wasn't bad at all.

    Go to a Japanese dual sport bike? I don't see it happening. I've swapped bikes with my buddies on DRZ's, KLR's, and XRL's, and once you've had a chance to ride the new or old LC-4's, the choice will be very clear.

    Dirty
  14. TheMuffinMan

    TheMuffinMan Forest Ranger Magnet

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    Yeah I have a bridgestone tw21 and metzler sahara rear left over from my 950. Once I use them I'll probably go to a tkc up front and a mefo or heidenau on the rear.
  15. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    I put a Heidenau on the rear in one of those super duper heavy duty Michelin rear tubes.

    I've run a few Heidenau's now, on the 640A and the 690 and like them better for the riding in my area. Still partial to the 606 in the front on both bikes though.

    Dirty
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    For that sort of duty an EXC might almost work. Call the dude at the shop's bluff, tell him you want to test out the 500 for a weekend & see if you like it :deal :lol3

    Having said that, if you like your 640 for that stuff, you'll love the 690. The lighter weight, slimmer feel & lower CoG makes it feel much more like a modern dirtbike than the 640 does.

    Cheers
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  17. dolphins13

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    If my dealer allowed test rides I definitely would of done it already. I start drooling everytime I look at the new 500's. Like the longer maintenance of a 690 tho. Would love to be able to test ride a 500 and a 690 2012 or newer.
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  19. JustBob

    JustBob Uh...who me?

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    as one considering a KTM, specifically the 690EnduroR. My executive summary take away is that the bike's design is splendid but the execution (build quality) could be better. And....dealer expertise is a crap shoot, on the crap end of things.

    I still have to sell the Multi before I get serious about this bike, so I have time. Keep the good discussion going. :ear
  20. dirty_sanchez

    dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez

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    Just did the 1k km service for the '12 at Performance Cycles over in Lafayette, LA. Good people and they're 3 Minutes south of Interstate 10 for any other KTM travelers heading left or right and they have the Ultimate Set of KTM Tools.

    Even though my bike has just shy of 2k miles at this point, I did everything checkup wise to the bike I could, given my lack of the KTM diagnostics computer.

    Robert the Dad and Owner of the place rolled it in the back hooked it up, checked for codes while Jessie, the Son checked for any recall items.

    Easy peasy, the bike had no recalls, Jessie warrantied the left mirror, whose stalk suddenly broke, going limp, while tooling down the road, transferred ownership into my name, and Robert found no fault codes, noted all values fell within specification, and I was down the road.

    I fully expected a charge for running the diagnostics test, but when it came time to ring up a couple of stocking stuffers for Tiny D, they didn't charge me for any computer work!

    I'm REALLY diggin' this '12 690E!

    Dirty