2012 Ninja 650

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by DOUBLE-O G, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. supervision

    supervision Been here awhile

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    Flug, the thread is called "Some Assembly Required", The bike is 649hp?? Popular thread, Also, shit head, check out ron pecks xs 650, fresh build
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  2. pachap

    pachap CANNOT RIDE

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    This is monster that should not be! :rofl
    This picture cracks me up. That is an awesome bike. Man the best thing about motorcycles is making them do things they aren't supposed to do. I can see myself raping and pillaging the countryside on this thing. Camelback filled with Stoli and cranberry and I'd be ready to go.

    On a somewhat serious note, what cases are those? Will be getting a Versys soon and while I am leaning toward some Givis I am trying to look at all my options.
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  3. ghostdncr

    ghostdncr Burnin' daylight...

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    An inmate from west Texas built this one and the cool thing is, it doesn't appear to have taken eighteen months in a machine shop to do it! The tires are Kenda Big Blocks on the stock 650R wheels and all the lower fairings have been removed. A radiator guard and engine case guards have taken the place of the plastic. Not sure about the windshield, but I plan to do a thorough write-up of the nuts and bolts of this build in order to document how you get from a stock 650R to this.

    Those are Pelican cases. If you're not familiar with them, they're a waterproof military-grade transport case made from very thick glass-filled nylon. They are nearly unbreakable and hold up quite well to sliding along the road with a motorcycle lying on top of them! Most retailers list cases in this size around $200 USD but with some shopping around, they can be found for a little over half that.

    Thanks for even more signature material! :lol3
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  4. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Sold! Thankfully.. :lol3
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  5. RydRy

    RydRy Been here awhile

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    haaaaaaa- yeah that aint right
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  6. nachtflug

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    I'd seen that thread before. didn't look like the same bike. looks like multiple builds in there. is the Versys the preferred donor or is the versys twin and the niinja twin identical.

    do you know if any of the work that was done to the ninja that won the 2010 Indy mile flat track find it's way down to the consumer level and possibly these builds?
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  7. ghostdncr

    ghostdncr Burnin' daylight...

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    I think some have confused this bike with the one built by jdrocks and while similar, jd did some extensive machining and fab work on his. This one doesn't appear to have gone under the knife like that.

    I think the main difference between a 650R and Versys is the gas tank, which on the Versys is one gallon larger. It will bolt right onto the 650R, they tell me.
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  8. nachtflug

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    well what is this one? a stock bike with Kenda's, pelican cases, and the fairing?

    forks and handlebars stock?
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  9. p0diabl0

    p0diabl0 Been here awhile

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    Looks like the stock Ninja 650r forks. Tires look like TKC 80s. The front fender has been raised. Touring windscreen. Most of the body fairing was cut away and SW Motech crash bars and skid plate look to be installed along with a rad guard. Handlebars look similar to stock but I think they might be a bit wider, hard to tell. Mirrors are bar mounted instead of fairing mounted. SW Motech rear rack, probably their side racks too but cant tell from this pic. Pelicans all around. I think I got everything :freaky

    edit: almost forgot the seat pad/cover!
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  10. ghostdncr

    ghostdncr Burnin' daylight...

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    Not sure if the bars are stock, but they have been raised approximately 1.5 inches. The tires are Kendas, which are so similar to the TKC80 you have to count the lugs to differentiate between the two. What I think is coolest about this bike is that anyone with basic hand tools can build one. You don't need a CNC mill and a tig welder to put one together and that's why I'm planning to document all the details in case anyone else wants to go down this path.
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  11. p0diabl0

    p0diabl0 Been here awhile

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    Ah I see. Also, looking again, a raised front headlight/fairing area.
    Still not much clearance after all that work though...
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  12. ghostdncr

    ghostdncr Burnin' daylight...

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    True, but if a bunch of clearance is needed, I'll take the WR450F. :thumb Still, I've got a lot of faith in that skidplate.
    Good catch on the lifted fairing, too. I'd already forgotten about that. My main use for this bike will be secondary and gravel roads, and linking them together with occasional stretches of interstate.
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  13. nachtflug

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    so this started as a versys and the fairing is versys with a touring windscreen?

    sw moto tech bars and rad guards are off the shelf ready for this bike?

    is it as simple as buying a versys and bolting on a few aftermarket items with tires to duplicate this bike?
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  14. ghostdncr

    ghostdncr Burnin' daylight...

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    Mine started as a 650R, but you've nailed the general concept. It's pretty much off-the-shelf.

    [​IMG]
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  15. pachap

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    Nachtflug, about the engine... Versys and the Ninja 650 are the same. The engine is nearly bulletproof. Many owners report no valve adjustment needed until 50k miles. That is part of the reason I will buying a Versys early this summer.

    My father, who is 62, has had a 2011 Ninja 650 for over a year now. He bought it at Christmas 2010. It has been very comfortable for him to ride and doesn't give his back any problems. I have had some seat time on it and loved it. It was very easy to handle and the had a smooth even powerband.

    That earlier pic of the dirt-Ninja still makes me laugh thinking about all the fun I could have on it :).
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  16. dddd

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    -1 on the engine of the ninja 650r.
    I own a 2010 with 65000km.
    I dont know about the global stats here, maybe I was unlucky, but the valves (checked every 24000km as expected) got noisy after 45000km, and I changed the cam chain tensioner which was gripped (would not extend). Even adjusted, something is still clicking in there, they say it is normal wear... I hate them for that...I wish I could find a good honest mecano.

    It also has more blowby since 55000km (and its not a broken piston ring). I burned a lot of oil one month (the crankcase breather tube feeds oil mist because of pressure in crankcase due to blowby, to the air box to be burned), enought to see the red light as oil level got low. I really didn't expect that to happen so quickly.

    I think this twin parallel wont live to be 200'000km... I may try to re-hone, oversize the piston once, just to refresh its performance and reduce oil burning (that is, if it is not a total loss).

    Oh, another tip for the owners: check your air box drain hose, some are badly installed and corked. From the airbox, this is the clear tube on the right side, and it should go down and horizontally to the left side near the front sproket cover, not down then slightly up over the frame then back down and in front of the real wheel! This tube is supposed to gather condensed oil vapors at the bottom of the air box, but if it is corked, it wont. As your engine gets old, you will end up with a pool of oil in the air box and the pulsing pressure may, just like it happened to me, break the breather tube seal at the air box and drain all this oil all around that area. Once the drain hose is placed correctly (it might be impossible to do without removing the air box, so wait until the next opportunity), you can examine easily now (the tube is easily visible) the amount of oil drained (this hose has a plug at the end) and judge how old (at least based on blowby) your engine is getting.

    please note that the removal installation of the airbox is partucularly hard on the breather tube seal at the air box, as thing don't align easily until in place. This is likely how the seal got torn in the first place by a mecano during some rushed reinstallaion ...
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  17. Bongolia

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  18. Matticus91

    Matticus91 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for this info I'll have to keep an eye on that. At least it's an easy thing to check on.

    I'm flying up on my first service (1,000 miles in a few days!). Would anyone recommend not bringing it to the dealer again and just doing it myself? I am mechanically inclined but I have never worked on a bike.
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  19. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    I tend to let them do it, if only to keep it from becoming part of the warranty discussion if you were to need it.

    That said, no reason you shouldn't at least pull a bunch of the plastics off, do a good thorough inspection, and get to know it a little better. :thumb
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  20. Matticus91

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    Understood. Took it in for it's first service, hit me for $285. Seems like alot, their hourly rate is huge.

    Looks like I'll be getting some little additions for the bike too. New brake/clutch levers, HID's, and a 12volt socket for my phone.