2013 ama supercross

Discussion in 'Racing' started by ADK, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    +1 on those board track racers, there is a small M/C museum near here on Route 66, there is a board track bike there set on a little section of board track, 60 degree bank. Scary just to look at that thing.


    Dallas is not usually a slick track, I think they have pretty good dirt there. Last interview I saw with Tomac he sounded undecided about riding a 450, but I'll be surprised if he doesn't ride 2-3 rounds of 450 class. Like someone said, KDub's bike is just sitting there, riderless.


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  2. nachtflug

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    you read too much into it. my comment stemmed from me bringing up the fact that I believe Aldon Baker gets too much credit when his meal ticket wins. I noted that all time greats such as Kenny Roberts and Scott Parker made their mark (I'm assuming, maybe they did but I doubt it) without trainers.

    To which someone replied "Kenny Roberts,Scotty and Jay Springsteen could never perform like Blake Baggett did last year at Redbud."

    to which I replied Blake Baggett couldn't hang onto a TZ750 dirt tracker at race speeds.

    No knock on him most people couldn't and you'd be stupid to even try it.

    NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is a bigger fan of todays MX/SX riders than me. You have to be over 50 and have ridden the stuff we did in the 70's to understand and appreciate just how far these guys have taken the envelope of all that riding MX/SX includes and to comprehend just how fast they are going. I've stood in the first turn at Unadilla and watched 70's riders go by and I've stood in the same turn and watched Dungey and company go by.

    There is no comparison.

    Todays riders are light years ahead of the previous generations. I've complimented todays riders numerous times in this thread and I'm boarding a plane for Dallas on Thursday to see my first ever Supercross.

    That is first this millenium we were at Montreal in 1977 when Jimmy Ellis blitzed the field on a Can Am and Terry Clark took second and our hero Pat Moroney took 3rd. You can look it up. :deal
  3. zenjen

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    :scratch You spelled Villopoto wrong.

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  4. IgoFar

    IgoFar Been here awhile

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    I believe that the last 500s that were raced in the nationals were pumping out about 70 HP give or take a couple. Todays 450s, I believe are at around 55 give or take a couple. But the trick to the 500s was to spread all of that power through out the RPM range. This wasn't always easy, and if you couldn't get it right, it could be a real handfull.
  5. Beez

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  6. YOGOI

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    So Dungey's air shock isn't compatible with the 450's vibration. Weird.

    The weight loss of going to air shocks seems too great to let em die. I wonder where we'll see em next.

    My 2 stroke has a different vibration. Maybe they'll let me test it for a while.:evil

    Can you imagine how light the bikes will be once air forks and air shocks become the norm.

    Some day the current group of riders will the old TUFF guys that had to lug around those heavy four strokes (without traction control). :norton
  7. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    :scratch You spelled Dungey wrong!
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  8. pbarmy

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    I see you've all forgotten how to spell Millsaps!:lol3
  9. PeteN95

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    I stand corrected, not the first time either! :D I knew it was somewhere warmer and dryer than here, but that isn't saying much! I'll take RV this weekend, but I usually do. I'm pretty sure Millsaps will be in the top 3 or 4, which if he can keep it up, will make it hard for anyone to catch him. But it has been a great season so far with few injuries :clap and unpredictable results. Let's hope that part continues!
  10. nachtflug

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  11. B1KSOLO

    B1KSOLO A Proud Deplorable

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    I'm not sure a 115 lb rider could hang onto that MF
  12. dsilver1007

    dsilver1007 Been here awhile

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    where did you get those dyno numbers from...there are few kx's making in the 70 hp range now
  13. nachtflug

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    I thought 70 seemed a tad high...
  14. IgoFar

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    Both KTMs are 2013.
  16. B1KSOLO

    B1KSOLO A Proud Deplorable

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    Wow KTM 450SX impressive curve and usable HP at 7500 rpm (Good info)
  17. Gordy

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    They have some nice motors. I have been looking at the 350. For 2013, they really got some more (and good) power in it. :nod. I need to ride one first though. I'm not dropping 10 large on what "they" say.
  18. B1KSOLO

    B1KSOLO A Proud Deplorable

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    I agreed they are priced proudly, there's a lot guys out here in Colorado using them for enduros and loving em, after they remap them with the European mapping
  19. knybanjo

    knybanjo kinda slow

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    Finally watched "Moto4, The Movie" last night.
  20. Gordy

    Gordy Team Listo

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    The part with Tomac at the end is pretty cool eh? I love his practice track in CO and you get a good idea of what the desert sand riding that we have around here is about. :D