2013 ama supercross

Discussion in 'Racing' started by ADK, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    Track was excellent for an indoor track :clap

    The racing was good. Even with the questions as to did 'Poto get away with rules bent in his favor he was on a tear, running the spreadsheet in his head told him he needed those extra 3 points even if it meant getting close to James. Which he did at least 3 times, maybe more.

    That is not to say I like the way the rules were enforced, don't know about NASCAR, never watched that much anyway, but I used to like basketball, don't watch it anymore because of the way the rules are ignored for certain teams and players.

    Villipoto the Casey Stoner of motocross? Hardly, he is talented but a level of talent below Stoner :deal


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  2. SigPig

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    RV could have beat JS that night without the questionable tactics. He looked better than everyone else out there. I guess it gives us all something to talk about until Daytona though.

    Speaking of which. Any thoughts or opinions on KROC competing in the 450 class on a 350 at Daytona next week? :evil
  3. SigPig

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    Here is another shot for good measure.

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    Pass is made before clearing the rider that the red cross flag was out for.

    Jussayin'
  4. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    And that, to me, is the absolute deciding factor. Pass was made BEFORE clearing the downed rider. Penalty.
  5. PTRadam

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    The downed rider is back up and on his bike! Pretty soon SX is gonna be like T-ball. Tell them they all won so the riders all feel good and their fans do to. :D
  6. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    Tell that to Kyle Chisholm.
  7. SigPig

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    Flag is still out. Rider is still stationary. Flag represents the entire section. Rules are rules..... Wait a minute, no they aren't, obviously. My bad, carry on. I wonder what SX looks like through RV coloured glasses....(rhetorical)
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    To an extent you are right, but the rule is written in the book and it needs to be enforced every time, for every rider, the same way so there is no question. If the rule is there it should be followed. The grey area in the rules that people are talking about is only there because the rules aren't consistently enforced.
  9. SigPig

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    Wider shot from HD version of youtube replay.

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    Here he talks about the first incident that he was docked the positions for.

    Racer X: Take us through this one, from the start.
    Ryan Villopoto: First turn, [Justin] Barcia did a powerslide and then I did one, James was unable to get underneath me. I was third and then 4th, got around a guy and made a costly mistake and jumped on a red cross. I thought I was past it but it’s obviously the full straightaway. It was on Mike [Alessi], and obviously we know Mike’s kind of hard to pass. I wanted to try to get it done right away and just jumped the gun. And then obviously [the] red flag and they re-lined us up and I was 5th. They originally told me, we’re going to dock you after the race. And I’m like, whoa, well you’re restarting so start me now… so then they said okay, yeah, yeah, they must have mis-said what they were originally going to do, and ended up changing it. That was good because whatever happened during the race it’s not like I was stuck with winning and then getting docked. So that was good.


    A new rule is then made up on the spot at RV's request. Then goes ahead and commits the same offence with no penalty. It's great to be the Champ.
  11. SigPig

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    Here is JS passing RV between the flashing red and the red cross flag.

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    Perhaps the podium should have looked like this?
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  12. PTRadam

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    Isn't that a yellow flag waving in the upper right hand corner? I'd say that is the one they're supposed to pay attention to. In the video of the race I also thought there were yellow flags waving. Not red cross flags. I mean, which flag are you supposed to pay attention to when you're racing at that level?
  13. Tee2

    Tee2 I SAID! Woo Hoo!

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    That photo shows what I saw. Stewart should not have been in front of RV. He passed on the red light. There where so many fails if you nail one guy you have to nail them all.

    It was just easier to let them all get away with it.
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    So what is your take on the turn before when Stewie ran RV high with a red light on the entrance to the corner and a red cross on the exit of the corner? :deal
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    SigPig Been here awhile

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    Look up 3-4 posts.
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    Actually there were TWO yellow flags after the red cross flag, so now what's the rule if the flag is for the entire straightaway?

    And why is there a red cross flag out for a guy sitting on his bike kicking the starter? Once you wave a flag do you keep it out until the whole field has gone by it once?

    I really hope they figure all these rules out before Daytona. And enforce them unless the guy that violated a rule is nice and asks for leniency.


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    Best race yet,shitty coverage.Now hope for a swamp at Daytona!:evil
  18. SigPig

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    +1
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    Anyone know what this is about? Did something happen on the first 3 laps that weren't televised?

    RacerX Interview with Barcia

    RacerX:That was a crazy race, dude.

    Bracia:Yeah, it was definitely crazy. I was feeling good and battling it up, having five, six, so many fast guys, one mistake puts you from top three to off the box like that. Definitely a bummer. I went in the corner pretty good and clipped my front brake. Tuff Block stood me up a little, and couldn’t do a triple. So it was definitely tough. And racing with those guys is so awesome, but then you got a guy like Stewart that is not very fun to race with. I race really aggressive with everyone, but I try not to race super dirty, but he takes it to that next level.
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    I saw when he went off track after passing JS about half way through the race. Never saw anything suspicious between the two though.