2013 Berkshire Big Adventure -- Your Input Needed

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  1. Gargoyle

    Gargoyle Trail Jester

    Apr 12, 2008
    upstate NY, USA
    The Berkshire Trail Riders are planning our 2013 May event and would like to get your input.

    Here is the thread from last years event for reference (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=755308).

    We hope to make this a 2 day event in 2013. We have applied for a 2 day AMA sanction, so assume it will be a Saturday and Sunday ride over different routes each day.

    Assume that there will be a big bike main route ride with hero sections for dual sports and brave/skilled ADVers.

    Here are a few questions we would like feedback on. I am gathering this input for our next club meeting which is in early December.

    Thanks in advance for the feedback. Ross


    1) is a 2 day event appealing to you? Should we start the day 1 ride at 9:00am and take you through 100+ miles of dirt roads and trails? Or start later in the day (like noon) and do less miles on day 1?

    2) would you rather pay less and camp on a primitive (field) site? Or would you rather pay more to stay in a campground with camp sites, cabins, showers, etc.

    3) would like us to have breakfast available for purchase? would you like dinner available for purchase?

    4) would you be interested in purchasing a BTR event tee shirt and/or BTR event decal?

    5) what other input do you have for us on this event?
  2. the kawasaki kid

    the kawasaki kid Been here awhile

    Nov 3, 2009
    New England

    1) Yes. I would opt for an early start with more milage.

    2) No I prefer primitive camping

    3) No I think it is easier to just have people fend for themselves

    4) No offense, but no

    5) I know this has been discussed before, but I for one would like to use the new GPS unit that I invested in this season. I understand that you guys prefer roll charts, but just thought I would throw it out there.

    Thanks to all those who invest their time and resources into putting these events on! :thumb
  3. wpbarlow

    wpbarlow Long timer

    Jun 9, 2003
    Central NJ
    2 days starting at 9.

    Imo, the model 2 day event is Durty Dabbers.


    less primitive (with nearby motels :lol3 )
    breakfast nice, not a necessity. Good way for a local organication to make some money.
    Much prefer GPS.

    Do two of these and I'' buy a shirt:deal
  4. tunp

    tunp Been here awhile

    Apr 28, 2011
    almost SE PA
    1. 8 or 9 am start is fine
    2. campground
    3. don't need it
    4. yes
    5. day 1 more mileage, day 2 a little less
    6. this years was a great ride.
  5. lilolita

    lilolita fahr mit mir

    Dec 18, 2008
    Probbydense, RI
    1) Two day event would be great!
    Prefer later start on first day due to arriving late Friday night or early Saturday.

    2) Primitive camping IF there's a place to have a big campfire.

    3) Not necessary as I like camp cooking, but if it's a fundraiser, I'd be happy to forgo the cooking. If we can support local charities that could help the community support the riding.

    4) Yep, stickahs are always fun.

    5) I enjoyed this year's event, but would have liked the camping to be all together to meet some new people (I was lucky as the RI/CT crew had a big section together, but it would have been nice to have a general hang-out area, particularly so shy people [me] can meet some new folks).

    Prefer roll chart, no GPS tracks.

    I already had to decline a conference invitation for the days after the third weekend in May...looking forward to the 2013 Berkshires rides!
  6. RichBeBe

    RichBeBe All Hail Seitan!!!

    Mar 13, 2004
    1) Not sure, I really like the way Rhody Rovers does it with an afternoon turkey loop on Saturday, and then a full ride Sunday. But this is for a TR, I would think for a dual sport a full two days is better.

    2) I am good with primitive, but non-primitive is usually more conducive for partying. I would say it depends on the price difference, ten dollars no brainer, 20 maybe, 30 no.

    3) I do not care either way. As someone with a special diet I never eat at events that serve food. Just don't put the food into the price.

    4) I rarely buy shirts, I have too many.

    5) Go for it :D
  7. BBQer

    BBQer Who Me

    Dec 11, 2006
    Mass Hysteria
    1. 9:00 both days, Adventure bike loop with several Loph sections for the guys that need the adrenalin fix. It would be nice to have a good bail point on Sunday for anyone that needs to maintain some marital bliss.

    2. I don't mind a short ride to the start, growing kind of fond of primitive camping in a cabin at Prospect Mt.

    3. Local non-profit doing breakfast would be nice but not a deal breaker either way.

    4. T- shirts are nice, stickers even nicer.

    5. Not a knock, but you asked so... Some years I found the adventure rides very tame, throw some decent hero's into the mix.

    All in all you guys do a great job, always one of my must do rides.
  8. AnyDay

    AnyDay Wants more time off

    Oct 18, 2010
    New Paltz, NY
    I don't do many dual sport events, but I was at the BBA 2012 and had fun. Big bike route.

    1. 2 day OK, 9am OK, 2nd day shorter miles
    2. Primitive camping OK
    3. Would buy hot breakfast both days, maybe dinner too (less stuff to pack onto the bike)
    4. Decal (have lots of t-shirts)
    5. I really enjoyed the intermediate rated hero sections this year. Challenging and interesting, but short enough to not be exhausting. More like this please!
  9. ChR1s

    ChR1s Spherical Bastard

    Aug 26, 2003
    1) One day is fine

    2) Don't camp

    3) Yes, yes

    4) t-shirt

    5) Suggest avoiding the word "enduro" in any postings, documents, discussions, etc., when describing a class of motorcycle.
  10. Gargoyle

    Gargoyle Trail Jester

    Apr 12, 2008
    upstate NY, USA
    Great feedback so far ... looking for others to chime in here as well.
  11. 8gv

    8gv Long timer

    Nov 22, 2009
    CT exile now in NH
  12. loph917

    loph917 Beard Bros Racing

    Jun 5, 2010
    state of pain and confusion
  13. Gargoyle

    Gargoyle Trail Jester

    Apr 12, 2008
    upstate NY, USA
    You crack me up Aaron. :rofl
  14. sallydog

    sallydog 80 miles a day for 41 months

    May 3, 2007
    40 & 77 NC
    a glorious dinner like rhody rovers does :deal :clap
  15. Rusty Rocket

    Rusty Rocket Life behind "Bars"

    Dec 22, 2005
    Left CT, moved to TN
    There wasn't one this year.:cry I miss my steak fry!
  16. Pantah

    Pantah PJ Fan from Boston

    Oct 25, 2004
    India Wharf summers - Boulders winters
    2012 was my first. I stayed in the lodge and ate in their bar. I had a great time and only fell off in the mud once.

    1. 2 days are good, but I prefer the late start so I can ride there in the morning. Either that or long Saturday and maybe a 2pm finish on Sunday.

    2. Campground

    3. I'll buy whatever meals you serve

    4. I'll pay the entry fee whatever amount you decide and if it is enough to include a sticker I'll take it. Not a fan of shirts, though.

    5. The paper stickers you gave us this year were a problem to remove from my screen. Left a residue that is still there. I'd like at least tracks for my GPS, but I liked your roll chart so I'd prefer both I guess. The roll chart was fun once I figured how to go back and do-over.

    Whatever you decide, I'll be there. :D
  17. Lil' Steve

    Lil' Steve PussyWagon™ Chauffeur

    Oct 3, 2006
    NYC, AZ
    A 2 day event is definitely more appealing. Many of us have been arriving a day early and making this a 2 day event anyway, more riding = :ricky

    9am starts are pretty common, maybe 9am start for big bike (longer mileage) routes and 10am start for the smaller bike/hero section types?

    Accomodations really dont matter to me, but I really enjoyed the 2 day event you held at Camp Kinderland. At the one spot you were able to offer:
    Cabins/primitive camping
    Sign up
    Hot breakfast available for sale
    Starting location
    Large spot for evening socializing

    That combination was great because most didnt have to unload/ride to the start, they were already there. The hot breakfast option by the local FD was a good choice. If you needed a real bed with a hot shower, there were plenty of cabins available, and plenty of room for the primitive campers. In the evening, plenty of space for all to spread out and socialize. And when you were done with the ride, tired and dirty, it was nice to be able to load up your bike at the start/finish and grab a quick shower before the haul home.
    I realize that location may not be available, but I thought it worked out great the last time we were all there.

    Dinner available doesnt matter to me, I usually bring my own.

    I usually go for a t-shirt, but make the decision after seeing it first.

    You guys have always put on a quality event, I think the 2 day is a step in the right direction because it allows those willing to travel longer distances the opportunity to experience more of the great riding you guys have available. I know some of the Jersey guys dont feel it's worth it to travel all that distance to ride a one day event.

    Friday afternoon/evening access near the event helps those wanting to settle in before the first day's ride.

    I think that's all for now, I'll chime in if I think of anything else. Thanks for the opportunity to let us have a say.
  18. Cattledog1969

    Cattledog1969 Been here awhile

    Mar 7, 2011
    A Wealthy Cape Cod College Town
    Yes please make it a 2 day event!!!

    Make it closer to 150 miles each day, there's no shortage of dirt roads and back roads and trails out there, use them all.

    I camp at a private camp ground, but I would camp at the place they had at the Berkshire 2 day Turkey run back in September 2010.
  19. sledstorm1

    sledstorm1 CT RAMBLER'S MC CLUB

    Aug 13, 2009
    Northern Ct
    You guys put on a great event, I want to come every year... With that said please do not put it up against the best enduro on NETRA's schedule...ie Leyden Memorial.. or any other enduro for that matter! Just my .02
  20. twolanefred

    twolanefred n00b

    Apr 15, 2011
    Lee Center, NY
    1. Sunday rides are great, I work Saturdays .
    2. Camping with facilities
    3. Continental breakfast type stuff good enough for 9 am start.
    4. Ride decal
    5. Don't over think it, the ride was great last year.
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