2013 bmw f800gt

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by eakins, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. Jltrd

    Jltrd Adventurer

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    I for one don't get the point of going on and on about deal breakers and things you don't like about a new motorcycle. There's a very simple way of not paying $400 for a new belt. Don't buy the motorcycle that uses that belt. Same goes if you think the bars are to low, pegs too high, not enough wind protection, didn't hold enough gas....

    If I was interested in this bike, and I am, I'm not going to suddenly decide to buy a Harley because the belt costs 50% less



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  2. L.B.S.

    L.B.S. Long timer

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    Oh puhleeze.

    If I've spent all my frigging hard earned money on a $20,000.00 motorcycle in the first place, and then come to find out it's shit, the parts are outrageously expensive and never in stock anyway, most of them are carefully insured to be proprietary and not available elsewhere, let alone for a price that is at least reasonable, the maintenance is insanely priced, the dealers are shit, the warranty is shit, I'm now labeled a communist tool and a moaner, who should stfu and go buy a scooter?

    Maybe you happily take things up the arse without complaint, comforted in the belief that the manufacturer's profit is well and truly the most important issue, when you are sitting at home with your $$$ bike that is not rideable again, waiting for parts that you have to pay through the nose for.

    I don't.

    FYYFF. :csm
  3. Jltrd

    Jltrd Adventurer

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    So...you would spend 20K on something without first doing some research on it...must be nice to have that kind of money to throw away. You do know that maintenance/parts costs are not a secret right?
  4. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    I remember an article in a local mag which compared the Ninja 650R and
    BMW F800S/ST, translated from the German motobild or what'sitcalled.

    They calculated that even though the BMW has better fuel mileage, considering
    all expenses (maintainance, a set of tires, everything, with added local
    registration fees) the BMW would cost twice as much per mile (actually km)
    on the road.

    The exact numbers were $0.17/km for the Kawasaki and $0.34/km for
    the BMW. 1 mile = 1.6km, btw.

    Same math put the Bandit 1250 right in the middle between those two numbers.
  5. L.B.S.

    L.B.S. Long timer

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    Oh ya, absolutely. I have tons of money. That's why I was so pissed. I'm stupid that way.

    Duh! I don't have 20K just laying around to spend on a whim. I had to be very careful on how I could make payments, what I had to juggle finance-wise, what to do without, all so I could hopefully enjoy my beautiful finely crafted German machine, that I would have for many years to come.

    I did what I thought was more than due diligence for my research into the bike.

    I admit I was naive in my expectations about "BMW quality" "craftsmanship" etc., but based on all you twits that shit on everyone who DOES complain about getting a raw deal on a bike, acting like they are a tiny minority who is just bitching, WTF are people supposed to do, other than try and make the best informed choice they can, at the time?
  6. Jltrd

    Jltrd Adventurer

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    I think that what us "twits" don't get is that after doing what you thought was "more than due diligence" you still felt that you got a "raw deal" because a BMW motorcycle is more expensive to own than say a Honda.

    What problems did you have that made you think your bike was "shit"? I had an 06 GS for 7 years and other than regular maintenance the only thing I had to replace were headlight bulbs. I knew going in that dealer parts/maintenance was going to be expensive so I started using independent mechanics as soon as the warranty ran out.
  7. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    modhat

    Lets get back on the discussion of the bike, and leave the personal insults and brand bashing for the basement.

    /modhat
  8. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Maaaaan..!
    :cry
  9. L.B.S.

    L.B.S. Long timer

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    It was a Kobayashi Maru argument anyway, who am I to waste more breath in a silly endeavour :lol3
  10. Dieselpwr

    Dieselpwr Been here awhile

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    Holy shit people. For most, a motorcycle is a toy, a want, not a need. If you dislike the price of the BMW or the maintenance costs, then don't buy one. It's simple as that.
  11. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Captain Zoomtastic

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    I like the look of the GT. If things pan out well with it and it turns out to be a bike that sticks around for a while, I might look into one as a commuter in a few years, used. That white is quite nice.
  12. oldenuf

    oldenuf Been here awhile

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    I rode them for years, and seems when you stay with BMW's the next one is about the same cost as say buying a Honda and in a year or so getting another new Honda, and at times I did very well with the next one. I was very active in the BMW owners clubs and they have the best rallies and club functions.

    Art
  13. Dieselpwr

    Dieselpwr Been here awhile

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    BMW'S also seem to hold their value quite well. Just look at what 1200RT and 1200GS models with a ton of miles sell for on ebay, meanwhile other brands seem to depreciate much quicker.
  14. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Which brand would be the opposite of that.. for the people who like to
    ride more then tap each other on the back in the owner's clubs? :evil
  15. oldenuf

    oldenuf Been here awhile

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    The amount of miles most BMW club members put on their machines speaks for how they feel about riding their machines.

    Art
  16. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Captain Zoomtastic

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    Ever been to a COG rally? Maybe it's because I showed up on a Connie, (which for all intents and purposes was Kawasaki's copy of the old K75), but I sure didn't feel welcome at the last 3 BMW events I went to.
  17. oldenuf

    oldenuf Been here awhile

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    One of the main functions at any BMW rally is to bitch about their machines, having you there on a Kawasaki makes it harder to do.

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  18. conchscooter

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    I was interested a few years ago in an 800ST and one of the things I liked was the belt drive. I had a belt on a Suzuki 650 years ago and while the rest of the cruiser was not so good the belt was excellent.
    I passed on the ST probably because I was looking for a standard bike, more like the GT, besides they wanted $12,000 plus fees at the Miami dealership.
    I got a Bonneville for $8,000 OTD and thought about getting a belt drive conversion later after the chain wore out, $500 from Bella Corse. 42,000 miles later...I decided the $250 chain and sprockets were really no problem at all. My Loobman oiler spreads oil on the back end of my daily rider which I don't mind as the chain is virtually maintenance free.

    I am surprised the BMW belt only lasts 24,000 miles. Harley belts are good for a hundred thousand they say though not many Harleys seem to get that high mileage. I am not surprised a replacement is more than four hundred bucks because BMW are notorious for their replacement part costs.

    I wish there could be less yelling when people air their frustrations here. Apparnelty the BMW purchase was a mistake for one inmate and yelling at him doesnt make it better for anyone.
  19. LoneTraveler

    LoneTraveler Captain Zoomtastic

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    Comparing an F800ST to a Bonneville is like comparing Gew├╝rtztraminer to Gin. They both get the job done, and very well, but in different ways.

    I had never heard that Harley belts went 100k. If anything, last summer I had a fellow lose his belt right in front of me. Scary for both of us...
  20. steveWFL

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    The belt is a huge let down.