More than bar stock? Okay people, look at the pics. BTW, I do mechanical design in aerospace. The passenger peg brackets are obviously cast, in the smart triangulated geometry. There is also a straightish segment on each side supporting the tail section. To call the obviously at least partially cast subframe bar stock is just plain dishonest unless just blind ignorant nonsense. I think part of it may be square tubing, which, what's wrong with welded tubing?