2013 Dakar Pre-Event Discussion

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  1. tHEtREV

    tHEtREV Captain Awesome

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    Ok, I may have misquoted, but I was running of memory from a year ago when I was trying to take in a lot if information (I was reading the entire F5 thread) so my quotes wouldn't be 100% accurate. :deal

    Some one said something about him racing NASCAR and rule bending being a way of life there.

    I know nothing of NASCAR, and they may all be boy scouts and follow the rules to the letter, but it is what I remember them saying.

    I was going to ask why VW would give a shit because they didn't race last year, but then I remembered RG said he used the same setup last year.
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    pebble35 Long timer

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    This was next to the GasGas at the Milan bike show. No mention of Yamaha .........

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  3. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    Rule bending IS a way of life in NASCRAP. Although Robby has been in NASCRAP for a while, he's never really been accepted into the "good ole boy" circles that is NASCRAP.

    Robby also knew that others were waiting to protest. His attitude is such that he ALWAYS thinks he is going to win at everything including protests and lawsuits.
  4. Myway

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    Dread Pendragon throttle to the donk

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    garfey Scruffy Adventurer

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    I don't think anyone would run them over on porpoise.
  8. explodingmouse

    explodingmouse Been here awhile

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    That comment has me floundering.
  9. Stagehand

    Stagehand Imperfectionist

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    whale of an issue, though.
  10. Indo2002

    Indo2002 Been here awhile

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    It was a tyre deflation system, the vacuum is higher downstream of the intake restrictor.
  11. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    Which I'm sure is 'technically' true, but really, how much faster do you have to deflate the tyres? - they regular system works perfectly well on anyone else's 2wd buggy or the trucks!

    I agree with Amazing Ricardo - why would you dump air into the intake, unless [you hoped] it would offer some kind of performance gain?

    Robbie took that gamble, and was caught out... and it's interesting to hear that there had been rumours around the paddock regarding his 'system' previously... perhaps Stephane Peterhansel wasn't so wide of the mark with his accusations after all?!

    That said, I don't hold it against Robbie - it's fun to see the good ol'boy mentality racer up against the anodyne factory teams... they all do it to some extent or another, it's just you have to have a cast-iron excuse when you do get caught out...

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  12. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    True, but the clue is in the spec sheet - who else [still] uses a five valve head?

    Out of interest, here is a photo of the prototype from JVO earlier this year - at the time I wondered what bike/manufacturer it was for, now we know!

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    Pretty looking little thing isn't she... I mean the bike, not Lalia of course x

    Jx
  13. tHEtREV

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    Really shouldn't come as a surprise that it has a Yamaha engine, considering the Gas Gas EC450 uses the old carbed WR450 engine.:deal
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    WIsixfitty ceiling unlimited

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    I'm still fishing for a witty response. :1drink
  15. explodingmouse

    explodingmouse Been here awhile

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    Twas only mentioned just for the hallibut,
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    Southest US Thumper Extreme n00b

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    And the EC250F the Five Valve WR250F engine.
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    Not really.
    That pressure variable is very important to a vehicle like this. It is 2wd vehicle and dropping to a lower pressure IS very necessary for areas of low traction.
    Imagine having to wait for several minutes every time you needed to put your car into four wheel drive. Now try to imagine that during a race.
    Also, the volume of air (or whatever all the conspiracy theorists think he is hiding in his tires) that four 33" tires hold could only supply that size of an intake for a split second.
  18. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Gone a bit Baja

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    CC - You mis-read what I said.

    The 2wd vehicles (and trucks on all 4 wheels) have remote tyre inflation/deflation systems - for the very reason you state.

    I was simply questioning why plumbing in the dump on the far side of the intake restrictor would offer any benefit over the regular system that just dumps air to the atmosphere, and which works perfectly quickly enough for all the other competitors...

    As you suggest, we've ascertained that there was no discernible performance gain - since Robbie went just as fast (or faster) than he did before it was disconnected... but one still wonders WHY he did it in the first place, when clearly the rules state nothing can be plumbing in after the restrictor?

    Unless he had a can of NOS hidden in one of his spare tyres perhaps!

    Jx
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    That spare was given to RG by a mysterious man wearing a mustache.

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  20. RhodeHazard

    RhodeHazard ex halligan hooligan

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    Theoretically the inflation system (filtered) could be left on with the deflation system also on, feeding the intake system with a fuel delivery that could adjust for the added air volume... just saying...

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