2013 F800GS Traction Control Issue

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by RandoCommando, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. RandoCommando

    RandoCommando Wannabe

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    Tell them the traction control stays on despite turning it off.
    There is a recall that corrected mine.
    Should be the same for yours.
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  2. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    Dealer fixed asc today, MUCH BETTER, With that on in the dirt, the bike was a lot less fun.
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  3. Ceri JC

    Ceri JC UK GSer

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    I'm inclined to agree. On a litre sportsbike? ABS, TCS and whatever electrickery you can stick on there to help me go faster, I'll buy. Sidestand sensor to stop me riding away with it down? Great!

    On something that gets smashed into rocks and dropped in rivers? The less electronics the better, please. I have ridden F800GSes with ABS, with the ABS disabled and without ABS. I would choose the latter every time unless it was going to be used as a road bike. The fact that BMW's own Offroad school hobbles the ABS as part of "setting the bikes up" for the season is pretty telling. Yes, there might be a button/process to turn it off temporarily, but when it "fails safe*" and turns itself back on after you stop for lunch, sooner or later, you will forget to disable it. Just hope that it only manifests itself as 'weird braking' on the flat as opposed to you crashing down a steep descent.
    :evil

    *safe meaning "what a road rider would want, because that's how most of these bikes get used".

    RE: ESA; I was looking at a GSA 2012 as a new bike a while back. I liked ESA, but was put off by the cost it'd pose to replace when the suspension is worn out after 40K miles.
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  4. LukasM

    LukasM Long timer

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    Hard to find a BMW without ABS and probably even harder to sell it if you ever want to. Simple solution is the switch from Burnsmoto, which lets you easily select permanently on/off settings for the ABS with the flick of a switch.

    Nice to have it for riding on wet asphalt, only trade-off is about 1.5 kgs of extra weight.
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  5. RandoCommando

    RandoCommando Wannabe

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    Ok.
    I just wanted to post this update that it was NOT a recall, but simply a software update to get the traction control issue working properly.
    That is all.
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  6. soph9

    soph9 Would Love to ride ALL the TIME

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    yep we got the update on Cheryl's VIN...my F800 was fine...all is good in the traction off world now...
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  7. litfuse1200

    litfuse1200 n00b

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    I took my new GS out for its first ride in the gravel yesterday and had the exact same issue, no matter what i did it just kept stuttering and missing, it's great on the road, but not when it gets loose. Spoke with my dealer today and they didnt know there was an issue. It's booked in tomorrow. the only other issue, when the lights on the dash are on, is the system activated of not. Bloody confusing. I had the bike stuttering up a hill with the lights flashing and the moment I hit the button it seemed to stop, but around the next bend on the next loose bit away it went with the lights flashing. I stopped the bike and held the button down for a good ten seconds and both traction control and abs lights stayed on, but the moment that I moved off they started flashing and it started stuttering again. Bloody frustrating, i'm all for technology but when its crap its crap.
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  8. Loutre

    Loutre Cosmopolitan Adv

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    Read the threads and tell your dealer that it only needs a remapping.
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  9. speed_racer

    speed_racer Been here awhile

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    I have a F650gs twin with ABS, and I usually turn it off whenever offroad.. However I noticed last time I was out, i kept stopping and starting and left it on at one stage, down rocky and muddy terrain it really comes into play with the standard gearing, you see std gears arent low enough to provide enough engine braking going down hills but keep ur foot on the rear brake and it works awesome! keeps the bike at total idle!

    But id still recommend it to be off on gravel roads as it just doesn't pull up on them.. a simple stop n hold ABS button turns it off so not a big issue, i wish you could do it while riding though,

    So ABS for mud/hard rock = great!
    gravel = not so great!

    my 2 cents..
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  10. rmhrc628

    rmhrc628 Long timer

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    So why would you buy a bike with the traction package ? Any Offroad 800 would quickly find the limits of the ESA and tc wouldn't they?
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  11. speed_racer

    speed_racer Been here awhile

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    the traction control is off in the first 5mins of offroad riding, but I did watch one of the dudes from BMW do a quick turn on a mossy/wet road and the traction control kicked in and stopped it from sliding out.

    So for eg, if u came round a corner n hit an oil patch that a car has left for you, u won't slip the ass out beyond correction..

    so off road traction is off for sure. but road, its a nice to have..

    (sorry rmhrc628 I know i have sounded like a bmw sales guy over the last week lol)
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  12. rmhrc628

    rmhrc628 Long timer

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    No that's quite ok. I almost bought an f8 2 years ago.

    I will buy one - perhaps the new adventurer model when it comes out. I'm just trying to work out if Ill miss out on anything if I don't get the traction package given I intend to change out so many stock parts.

    Ill then install:
    18 inch rear wheel
    Front forks - well modified shivers or showas.
    TT extreme rear shock
    Aggressive off road tyres
    TT tall seat
    Bar risers

    Then have a bike with awesome suspension, gear looks and power that's ready to go.
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