2013 Ford Focus ST, anybody got one?

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  1. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    Title says it all, i did a search, came up with nothing.

    Any of you ff's have one? Tell us about em if you do :ear


    There are a few a the local dealer, just sitting there, all orange and recaro and stuff. I sorta need/want a new car, push in this direction, if you will. What I read online sounds good, if not great. One of the forums list a few build issues, but silly stuff, like a hose not tightened. I would think they got the little stuff down now that the ST is out a few months.

    Thanks!
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  2. DLFLHT

    DLFLHT I'm a little fuzzy

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    I test drove one. It is a fun car to drive. Only problem is that you give up the fuel economy with the ST (relatively speaking), but it's a hoot to drive!
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  3. urbancowboy

    urbancowboy Vicious Cycler

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    Bro has one. He got it end of Oct. I'll ask him to reply. Overall he seems happy with how it drives and handles, but he isn't thrilled with the fuel economy. If it was all wheel OR if it was better on fuel it would be more competitive, IMO.
    I drove the gti and wrx before getting my tdi golf last year. I loved the wrx but I drive to much to be happy with low 20's mpg (especially with premium gas).
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  4. Tallbastid

    Tallbastid Let's get tropical

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    I'd be interested to hear if the ST has the same torque steer issues as the Mazdaspeed3? I drove the MS and LOVED everything else about that car... but the torque steer will most likely be a deal breaker, especially when an AWD WRX can be had for $2k more.
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  5. beergut

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    The price tag is scaring people off. -the unfortunate part is that its only a few grand more than the BRZ which lacks the Recaro interior and my-touch (similar) audio system...and cant stay on the dealers lots.

    Dont throw sticks at me but the Fiesta ST looks pretty appealing and better MPG
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  6. cogitate

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    Agreed about the Fiesta ST, really like the BRZ as well, don't think my dog can fit in it:lol3. Maybe?


    Too bad Honda doesn't make a Fit SI, with 140 horses:deal
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  7. beergut

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    Honda is dead. They died when they left f1. They are now into pleasing the governments.

    (I am a huge fan of Honda and would LOVE a R version of the fit. It will likely never happen in the US)
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  8. dfwscotty

    dfwscotty Long timer

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    I was looking at the Fiesta when I discovered the Focus 5 door. The Focus gets as good as mileage as the Festiva. I was cool with settling with a gas-saver but i was shocked at how great it ran for a 4 cylinder. I will hammer the hell out of it when I feel like it and it will scoot.

    Men's Journal was listing it on their yearly gear guide as a good toy at a great price.....of course they didn't mention the awesome gas mileage.
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  9. FRANKtheMACHINE

    FRANKtheMACHINE Been here awhile

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    Hi All,
    As UC says, I picked up a black focus ST in SP2 trim - ie partial leather recaro's, no heated seats, no HID.

    Here goes -
    I needed a daily driver and a car that would fit a (short) surfboard inside and a longboard on the roof (thule 480 with 1627 fit kit and hang two). The space inside fits what I need too - one can pull the back seat up and lie the back seat down to get it flat (ie no annoying angle from the back seat just tilted forward). That means a ton of flat usable space. Bottom line, I still find it a blast to drive, I think it sounds great, looks good etc. There is an algorithm that slows the inside front wheel to minimize torque steer and that has not been a problem for me - granted I havnt had this car on a track - just whipped it around boston's round-about traffic circles a few times.
    If you are looking at this car for this season the fwd will be fine but it ships with 18'' summer only F1's. They grab like crazy and the car corners and accelerates really well. I've just changed mine to 16'' Hankook i'cept evo winter tires on rims (discounttiresdirect.com hooked me up - ask for earl) and acutually I like the drive even more - the 18's like to grab uneven parts of the road too which can pull the wheels and acutually change your direction - be careful with that. The 16's take care of that problem.

    Pro's: engine, seats, steering wheel, fit and finish, nav - ie everything you touch

    Unsure: ford mytouch - sort of annoying but sometimes helpful

    Con: gas milage - I get 22-24 combined right now. I touched 28mi/gal on a half tank of gas on the highway babying the thing but most of the time I'm git'n on it. Other con - there is no digital speedo (at least I havnt found it). Where the digital speedo should be - that is to say directly in the middle of the dash is a digital readout of a bunch of useless info- time driving, mi to empty, and worst of all the SHITTY FUEL ECONOMY. Frankly these are minor points, I'm still having a ton of fun with this car. Much cheaper than the gti, bmw x1 and wrx that I looked at.
    peace.
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  10. cogitate

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    Frank
    Thanks for the info, keep us updated. My current Cvic si gets 24 around town, it is the 02 with 160 hp. frankly, for what it is, I think the gas mileage on my car kinda sucks: I got 30 on a long trip, can get 25 or 26 with a few freeway trips, but really. I would think if i had car like the Focus ST that got a little better mileage around town, but still had a lot more hp, that would be cool.

    So would a car that was fun and got in the 30's.
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  11. FRANKtheMACHINE

    FRANKtheMACHINE Been here awhile

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  12. Going_Commando

    Going_Commando Been here awhile

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    That car is fuckin sexy...
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  13. cogitate

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    Are you talking about the base Focus?:ear
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  14. dfwscotty

    dfwscotty Long timer

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    I don't have the base, I have the SE which is the middle version but I like it. It's automatic, one more gear than the manual. I avg a steady 35 mpg during my work week which is 75 miles round trip, about 75/25% hiway city but on long hauls I see 38-40.
    I like the 5 door, I think its sportier than the 4 door sedan but seriously there is no seating space in the back seats. I'm 6-3 and fit comfortably in the drivers seat. Now that I have driven it for a while I don't think spending the day on the clutch would be fun.
    One odd thing is the position of the gas pedal, I can't rest my foot in the right position for a long time and you end up with it at an odd angle, wears on you after some city driving.

    The Men's Journal version was the ST.
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  15. jdiaz

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    Finally looked at an ST in the flesh.....a red car that was being dealer traded, so I only got to sit in it. The math doesn't bother me.....a loaded GTI goes for $31k with zero-percent paper most of the year, so a Focus for a couple thou less and 2.9% financing isn't hugely different.

    Exterior is stunning, it looks great.

    Interior drove me nuts. That massive console, low roof, and small boot just makes the car feel claustrophobic compared to my GTI.

    No one could tell me anything about it. I live in truck and SUV country and fart-can hotrods are outside the dealership's comfort zone. :D

    I will wait to see some longer-term reliability data on Ford's direct injection solution, as this has been a huge achilles heel on Volkswagens and Audis with the 2.0T engine.

    ps- I don't know what kind of mileage you are expecting. My GTI is rated at 21/29 and it gets 28 in combined driving.
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  16. cogitate

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    I did get to drive an SE Focus 5 speed at the dealer back during the summer. I really liked it, it felt more refined than my 02 Civic SI. I can see how a tall person would feel claustrophobic, I am 5.5, it was fine, but still.

    That said, I was not over the charts that interested in it, I thought maybe the handling, 252 hp and recaros would spruce it up a bit.

    RE: direct injection: my buddy is head tech at a Mini dealer. The S's are direct injected, the non S coopers are port injected. He told me that the problem with direct injection is that is washes a little bit of the oil away, so it is not unusual to have to add some every couple of tankfuls. He also told me most owners of Cooper S's don't check the oil, it drops, and they blow their motor.:deal

    It is fun to shop. :clap
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  17. Crocker

    Crocker Just passing through

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    Same exact thought I had coming from a GTI and driving the ST. For a daily driver the interior is important to me and the focus just didn't cut it. Small, cramp and a dash that looks like it came from a bad sci-fi movie. I really wanted to like it, but was underwhelmed.

    Fun to drive, maybe not as stupid fun as the mazdaspeed 3 was, but definitely more mannered.
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  18. cogitate

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    Uh oh. The local dealer has a black one, and a tangerine screaming yellow one with leather recaros. Says they are having a sale, and while the don't usually discount special interest vehicles, these have been on the lot for a while and they want to move them.


    If anybody has any more info, speak now or forever hold your peace:lol3
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  19. A-Bone

    A-Bone Indubitably

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    Good article recently in Automobile comparing the GTI to the Focus ST... the author does a nice job teasing out the differences that might not be so apparent looking at each vehicle's stats...

    http://www.automobilemag.com/review..._focus_st_vs_2012_volkswagen_gti/viewall.html
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  20. cogitate

    cogitate What Marcellus Wallace Looks Like

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    Did a lot of reading last night in forums. Seems to have early build quality issues, and one site said you want to avoid buying a car built on a Monday or Friday. Shades of old time Detroit. Hoses not tightened, blow off, shooting coolant everywhere, and you have to be towed home.

    A person or two had their car replaced.
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