2013 Honda CB1100

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by cabanza, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. pm9654

    pm9654 Been here awhile

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    I've seen around 60 hp with the new Bonnie's, with less weight then the Honda. Not sure the difference will be like night and day. Anyway, I'm not hung up on hp numbers anyway, my racing days are over!
  2. markjenn

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    We'll see. My bet is the Honda will have an edge here, although this is such a subjective thing it is hard to put a fine point on it. I do know that while I like the new Bonnys, they've always looked cheap to my eyes, especially in the handlebar, switchgear, instruments, etc. I've especially been put off by the lack of a tach on the mainstream SE (cast wheel and tubeless) models. Another thing that rubs me wrong on the Bonny is making the TB's look like carbs - I know this is a small thing, but it strikes me as disingenuous. To me the Kawasaki W800 is the retro twin that punches my old bike nostalgia buttons a lot more. Unfortunately, it is not imported into the US.

    Hard to put a finger on it, but I just feel like the CB is a whole different class of motorcycle - bigger displacement, inline-four, much more performance, dual discs, ABS option, Honda vs. Triumph quality, fresher/more-modern design, etc. Haven't seen one yet, but to my eye, it is worth the extra bucks and then some. But don't get me wrong, I like twins and the Bonny is a very neat machine.

    Sorry for the Bonny tangent here folks. Feel free to steer it back towards the CB.

    - Mark
  3. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    I had an 09 T100 a while back. It was one of the most beautiful bikes I had ever owned and one of the worst handling, too. The word "turn" wasn't in its vocabulary. Being a member of a few Triumph twins forums, at that time, I can attest that most all posts were about gaining every ounce of torque and hp out of them, from air cleaner changes to 1000cc big bore kits.

    Owners seemed to love the looks but hate the performance and suspension of the Hinkley Bonnevilles. Seems that's just what motorcycle owners do. Mod and farkle till the money runs out.

    I'm sure some will want to take the new CB1100 and turn it in to an RR, while others will accept it for why the Japanese designed it and enjoy the ride... tomp dd50

    Here's specs for the '76 CB model, the new 1100 has same basic weight, half again more power, and to me, better looks, too...
    Honda CB750F Super Sport
    Years produced: 1975-1978
    Claimed power: 58hp @ 8,000rpm
    Top speed: 114mph
    Engine type: 736cc air-cooled SOHC inline four
    Transmission: 5-speed
    Weight: 538lb (wet)
    MPG: 35-45 (avg.)
    Price then/now: $2,152/$1,500-$3,500
  4. kraven

    kraven Hegelian Scum

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    This pretty much sums my feelings on the whole thing too. It's not that I don't like the Bonnevilles or think they're bad bikes.
  5. Hickey

    Hickey Been here awhile

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    I found a downloadable owners manual for the CB1100 and looked through it.

    Valve inspection is every 8000 miles
    The tank is 3.86 US gallons including the reserve
    Front and rear suspensions have adjustable preload
    Clutch and brake levers are adjustable for span
    There is a helmet lock that uses the ignition key
    That lock also pops the seat off
    There is a tool kit under the seat
    The battery is under the tool kit, under the front of the seat
    The alternator output total is 336, so not many extra watts

    http://www.pdfasal.com/auto/2010-honda-cb1100a-owners-manual-2.html
  6. oldhippie1

    oldhippie1 Been here awhile

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    Did you notice this said 2010 CB1100 not 2013?
  7. Mobiker

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    Its been available in other, more enlightened, parts of the world since 2010. I think they're the same bike.
  8. Hickey

    Hickey Been here awhile

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    Of course. I see no reason that the information and specs should be substantially different from 2010 to now. It's not like the bike has had any major revisions in the markets where it has been sold since its introduction in 2009.
  9. oldhippie1

    oldhippie1 Been here awhile

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    Its obviously the same bike. Are you able to pull up a servce manual? That would be great information to have.
  10. DesmoTull

    DesmoTull Been here awhile

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    I think it will probably refer you to the Honda Common Service Manual, until someone like Haynes comes out with one.
  11. Hickey

    Hickey Been here awhile

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    Nope. The owners manual was all I could find.
  12. Ed-B

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    This new CB takes me back... It reminds me of the 1973 Honda CB750 that I owned in the late '70s. That '73 CB was my first big street bike, and my motorcycling role models rode tricked out Honda 750s and Z1 Kawasaki 900s.

    This new CB is very tempting, and I'm certainly going to give the new CB1100 a close look when it hits the dealer's showrooms this Spring. But I'm afraid I'd be tempted to make the same mistake I made almost 30 years ago - trading a more advanced machine for a charming but lesser bike.

    Back in 1980 I wanted to buy a brand new bike, and I really wanted the European Yamaha XJ 650, but of course we couldn't get that bike here. So, in 1981 I bought the new whizz-bang Yamaha Seca XJ750. That really turned out to be a great bike for me, and it was somewhat advanced for it's time. A couple years later I sold the XJ750 and bought a leftover 1982 Seca XJ650 after Yamaha finally brought that model into the US market. Although the XJ650 was a fine bike, and I probabaly would have been very happy with it in 1980, I thought the XJ750 was a superior machine in all respects - except for the classic European styling of the XJ650. I realized that I missed my XJ750 when the newness wore off the XJ650.

    And so here I am today, with a perfectly fine 2007 Suzuki Bandit 1250S, thinking how nice it would be to have a charming new CB1100 Honda. Yes, it takes me back. But I'm getting that "Been here before feeling"... in more ways than one.


    Ed.
  13. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    Well, I am sure it is worth exactly what it cost, but in my opinion - well let me just say I am somewhat biased against anything that says "Suzuki" on the tank. I really like the 1250, and on paper at least it is an excellent choice for me. And it is probably an excellent choice for most people. Unfortunately I have had problems with the last two Suzukis I owned. I bought both of them new, and in the second case I even bought the extended warranty. I would have been happy to over look the worn out clutch, if Suzuki had only honored the warranty, but instead they told me replacing hte clutch at 20,000 miles was "routine maintenance". :huh

    I traded that bike for a Honda ST1300, and I was blown away by the difference in quality. The Honda was FAR SUPERIOR to the Suzuki in that regard.


    I will not be in a position to buy another bike anytime soon, but if I was and I wanted something "more advanced" than the CB1100, I would probably just wait to see what Honda does in another year or two. That is the silver lining for me. I am hoping by the time I am ready to buy another bike, that the Crosstourer will be an option in these United States.
  14. Towjam

    Towjam Been here awhile

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    Does anyone know of any CB1100-specific discussion forums on the interwebs?
  15. Towjam

    Towjam Been here awhile

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    According to the owners manual, the CB comes with a complete toolkit. What do you want to bet that the US model will only come with spanner wrench (if even that)?
  16. markjenn

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    Do other US Honda models come with abbreviated toolkits vs. other markets?

    - Mark
  17. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    Looked for one earlier, with no luck. There is the 1100F site for the older models, though. The new model may end up having its own section there, some day.

    http://www.cb1100f.net/
  18. jon_l

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    My '09 CBF came with the usual OEM toolkit; minimal and mediocre, but it is there, neatly stowed under the pillion seat.
  19. DWR302

    DWR302 Justan Nudderboomer

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    I am also interested in this retro Honda, and since Bonnevilles and Becker hard bags have been brought up in this thread I thought I would include a picture of my current ride. After putting thousands of touring miles on several different bikes I finally have found that the Bonneville gives me the most smiles per mile. It's the retro thing I suppose cuz I started riding back in the 60's. The modern bikes I owned just didn't do it for me. I've got about 25,000 touring miles on a Bonneville now so I think I'm done looking for a touring bikes. I think this new Honda would also be a great touring bike, especially for the guys that rode the inline fours back in the day. Put some bags on that puppy and hit the road every now and then.
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  20. jas67

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    There is absolutely no reason why a cool retro bike like the CB1100F (or Bonneville) can't be used for touring. The bike on the left in this picture is my 2009 Moto Guzzi V7 Classic with 30L Hepco Becker Junior side cases and 50L Journey top case. If you're considering Hepco Becker -- spend the little extra and get the Juniors, they are way better than the Journeys. I will, someday soon, hopefully, be replacing my top case with either the 45L or 55L Junior top case.
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