2013 Honda CB1100

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by DOUBLE-O G, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. The other Ferret

    The other Ferret Motorcycle nut

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    Last fall my wife and I were touring out west. We had come down 95 in Idaho to Lewiston and decided to ride the Rattlesnake 129 thru Washington into Oregon. As we headed up this neat curvy uphill outside Asotin, I believe, we saw a sign that said NEXT GAS 70 MILES. I was sure I could make it but still I turned around rode the 3 miles back to the last station and topped off. There was 5 Harleys in there topping off as well. Not sure if they had just come from there or were headed to there, but that is the only place I saw that made me nervous in the least.
  2. markjenn

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    You make a statement above the frequency of gas stations on "paved roads" and then cite an example on the interstate. I'll readily agree with you that that a 120-mile range is Okay for interstate travel in the W but it's not adequate if you're exploring the backroads, even if you're staying on pavement. The following sign I encountered unexpected in N. Nevada 50 miles after filling up:

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    I had to completely change my route.

    Another issue is that many of the stations in small towns are not open on nights or even weekends. And occasionally are out of gas. Or simply shut down unexpectedly. There is one station in the central part of NE Oregon I ride where the station has had three ownerships in the past six years and has been open/closed completely randomly. If you're depending on a station being available at 100 miles after filling and you arrive and there is no gas, you're completely screwed as you have no reserve to try and get to the next town or backtrack.

    Final point. There are winds and mountains in the W. While overall you may be able to average around 40 mpg, you will occasionally have instances where your mileage will fall into the low-30's, many times unexpectedly. With a 3.9 gallon tank, you can't depend on 3.9 gallons or even 3.5. To be reasonably conservative, you can only depend on 3.0 or so. This means to be conservative, you have to play on about a 100-120 mile worst case range, not 170-mile best case range. And we don't even know if the CB actually has 3.9. Most bikes fall a little short of their advertised capacity.

    For 90% of the country, the small gas tank of the CB will be just a minor inconvenience, but in the far W it will be something you'll constantly have to be planning around if you explore off the interstates. I think most will want to carry some extra fuel bottles.

    - Mark
  3. DesmoTull

    DesmoTull Been here awhile

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    Mark, Sounds like you'd be happier with another bike.
  4. interloper

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    I think bike manufacturers these days are afraid to produce a bike that is too heavy.
    That may explain why the cb1100 has such a small tank. Might also explain why it has a 4-into-1 exhaust instead of the 4-into-4 exhaust system.

    I currently ride a zr-7s (air-cooled, inline 4, 750cc, produced in the US 1999-2003) which is a bike with a 6-gallon tank and also comes with a centerstand. The bike was generally lambasted in the motorcycle press ...a lot of poor power to weight ratio comparisons with the sv-650. I personally love the bike. It has great range, is fantastic on the highways (it weighs 525 pounds, btw). Kawasaki no longer produces a bike with a centerstand and definitely nothing with a 6-gallon tank in the sub-1000 cc class.
  5. mrbreeze

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    :rofl
  6. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    exactly - it makes my penis look bigger.
  7. markjenn

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    Perhaps, but my point was not that the bike wasn't acceptable to me; it was that the notion that is has adequate range for touring in the western US is inherently faulty.

    I'm probably getting a CB1100, but I also have other bikes for touring; if I do decide to take the CB, I'll pack extra fuel and wish I didn't have to. It's not a deal-breaker but it is an annoyance. I'm wasn't expecting Honda to ante up to a full 6-7 gallon touring bike tank, but I don't think they should have shorted us a 0.75 gal over what they provided on these sorts of bikes four decades ago. Maybe they would lose a few sales to styling and the extra six-lbs of full-fuel weight if they made the tank 5 gallons, but my bet is that they're going to lose more sales to folks who love the bike, but actually want to use it for serious traveling and will buy something else because they're annoyed by the small tank.

    - Mark
  8. DesmoTull

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  9. jitterymonkey

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    That's a good looking tank.
    I'd want to sit on the bike with it on before I spent that kinda money though.

    Sat on the CB1100 at the IMS & if I remember right,my knees used those indentations in the tank.

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  10. Starkmojo

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    1500 bucks and then you have to paint it!
    wow guess there must be some demand at that price. :huh
  11. Gezerbike

    Gezerbike Hey Rocky...........

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    Like life, new motorcycles are a compromise. All the new Hondas are designed with a price point in mind and then produced to meet that point. They have to be globally acceptable, vs just acceptable to a certain market. Add a bigger tank, the heavier suspension parts to carry it, a small fairing and the other little things to make it set up for touring and you increase the cost. They brought the Deuville to the US with a decent motor, small fairing, built in bags , priced it under $10,000 and they couldn't give them away, even with a great Europeon track record. The CB 1100 was designed to be the retro CB 750, one of the best selling bikes of all time. Want to tour, fix it up yourself, like back in the 70's. I think Honda has done a pretty good job of recognizing the changing economy and making the effort to bring affordable bikes back to the mainstream public. You can be all the other manufacturers will be watching to see if this new effort pays off with increased sales, and more importantly, brings people back to the showrooms.
  12. jitterymonkey

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    Found some more pictures of the whitehouse tank.
    That's CB1100 K10... For the japanese market?
    These bikes look a lot more "retro" than the U.S. bike I sat on.
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    It's just so damn bulbous looking; reminds me of a humpback whale. It's just my opinion of course, but I find the stock tank far more attractive, far sleeker, than that big lump, capacity be damned. The CB750 style sidecovers don't help either -- they make the bike look far less integrated than the stock styling.

  15. M3-SRT8

    M3-SRT8 Been here awhile

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    QUESTION:

    If I order a bike from a Honda Dealer, do they give me a VIN Number to track? I'm afraid if I order one at an attractive price, and it comes in in March/April, and somebody sees it and gets the hots for one, they'll sell it at an increased profit.

    When I ordered my two previous cars, an '02 BMW M3 and an '06 Chrysler 300C/SRT8, both dealers gave me a VIN Number and a website to track it's progress, from assembly line to delivery. I'd like that here.

    Or, I'd AT LEAST like a VIN Number attached to the Sales Order (when available).

    Whaddiya Think?

    Lee
  16. Guth

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    Good question, but I have no idea. I've never purchased a new motorcycle before. I put a deposit down on a CB1100 back when it was first announced that the bike would be headed to the states and was told by the dealer that I was the first to do so. Sounds like the bike might ship in February and be in the showroom by sometime in March. Only time will tell. They'll notify me when they know more.
  17. Gas Hog

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    I would say, no. The dealers seem just as surprised as anybody when something comes in.
    Gary
  18. jly51

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    Sorry M3,Honda dealers have no way of knowing what vin numbers will be.Some times the motorcycle arrives before the paperwork.I worked at a large dealership in sales and took deposits on bikes daily,once a motorcycle had a deposit it was off limits to anyone except the buyer.Good luck.
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  20. M3-SRT8

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    I think you missed the point, Gary.

    What I'm concerned with is not the eventual delivery date, but the fear that the Dealer will sell my bike from under me in the spring, at a higher price, when things heat up on the sales floor.