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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by cabanza, Sep 13, 2012.
I didn't think I would be excited about Honda motorcycles this morning. I am.
Yea, I'm glad to see Honda bringing out those three 500cc bikes, and even better actually delivering them to the U.S.A. As it seems in the past some of the desired bikes were only available overseas. Now there's 3 more bikes to had to my next bike list, along with the NC700x that's already on the list.
I'm liking the X. I wonder what kind of gas mileage it will get, and how it compares to the 700. It looks like it doesn't have the storage area the 700 has. That is not necessarily a problem to me, as I would almost certainly put a trunk on it.
Should be a fun ride!
Considering the power vs weight, he 500X should be faster accelerating
then the 700! :eek1
And that's a good thing.
that's what I'm thinking as well, and if it can do at least 60mpg, then you have a range of over 200 miles. Pretty darn good, if you ask me. Put some bags on it and ride it anywhere!
I'm gonna say it'll probably have the exact same MPG figures of the 700.
Less weight to carry around, but more revs doing it, even if it's a smaller
engine it might end up being exactly the same on average.
But a steady 50-60mph in top gear might result in even better mileage.
The top gear is probably not an overdrive like on the 700 though.
Hell for Leather reports 54mpg.
54? :eek1 I think it could do better than that. That's about what I got out of my FZ6.
When you go lower with power and torque.. you gotta hit the throttle
harder to "get moving", that's why I wouldn't expect better figures then
on the 700X.
All that extra revving might even result in a worse average for a
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Am I looking at something wrong or is the new CBR500R actually a little heavier and has less peak HP than my Ninja 500?
If that's really the case, then too bad. I was about to get excited...
I don't think Honda cares much about power vs weight of the Ninja 500, much
like Kawasaki didn't care about it when then introduced the Ninja 400 (based on
This is a bike meant to conform to specific European laws (restricted licences)
and is probably superior to the Ninja 500 in every way other then maybe
the pure performance.
It'll probably be faster then the currently available NC700S and NC700X, and
you won't see anyone commenting on how the NC700 is only 50hp, and
kawasaki has the Z750 @ 107hp.
Apples and oranges.
I saw the ninja @ 435lbs and the honda @428lbs on their respective sites.
So are the riding positions the same on the CBR and CB? Don't see any different dimensions on the honda website...
You wouldn't take the CBX off road would you (says cast wheels)? Or is that okay for light gravel/dirt roads but not much more?
From the video above, it seems that the riding positions on the CBF and CBX are similar, with more room on the CBX.
The CBR seems more of a (mild) forward lean, and the pegs seem (optical illusion?) to be a little further back.
Just what I think I see.
I'm glad that Honda is bringing more choices to the US. I don't really understand them, but maybe they will strike a chord with others. The CB500X really baffles me, however. Sometimes faux sells, but why would you market this as an adventure bike? Comfy ergos, I get that, but there is nothing about that bike that would appear to make it any more capable on rough roads than any standard type bike. But I guess the bikes are so similar, it doesn't cost Honda much to slightly alter the bikes in hopes of filling additional niches. Sure seems like small niches though.
I noticed in the video that Honda is very careful to say "adventure styled" bike every time they describe the CB500X. Honda is making bikes for changing tastes, and right now ADV sells. Also, since most never go beyond gravel roads, the Honda marketing department is probably relatively safe. A real ADV offering would need more than cosmetic and headlight changes between three sub-models. It would require a real suspension, which would push the cost up, as would a different frame design to really accomodate the wishes of ADV riders.
Since most motorcycle purchases are ego driven, the CB500X should sell well.
I'm certain the Honda is a much better bike all around. Peak hp and a couple of pounds? Meaningless really and not something I'd base buying a bike on.
Apples and oranges... nope, I'd say one's a Red Delicious and the other a Fuji, damned close to being the same... sporty, commuter oriented 500 twins built to a similar price point. It's like Honda looked and saw a huge hole where the Ninja used to be and had an epiphany...
The bottom line is, I freaking love parallel twins for a number of reasons and have been wanting a new bike for some time. So far the Versys/Ninja650R have held my attention. Now Honda steps up with three new twins ... Is there anything about them that would be enough of an upgrade over my current Ninja 500 to justify the monetary outlay?
I wonder how many 500cc purchases are "ego driven"...
There are plenty of "ego driven" purchases on this site to go around though- just check the ride reports for pictures of liter plus adventure bikes 'taking a nap' as folks oh-so-cleverly phrase it.
Lots of adventures to be had, and plenty of country to be seen via modestly priced motorcycles and gravel roads.
It's a chick's bike, haha J/K.
It looks a lot bigger than the 250.
OTD I paid $5300 for the 250, so the 500 would fetch $7300. that's a lot of money.
I heard Sendler say it might only turn 9k rpm, that would be turd like. I heard some people say the US version would have 54hp at the wheel, 7 more than the EU version, that could be good. I might like it if you could wind it out like the 250.
I can't tell if there is any difference in the seating positions between the bikes Are they all just upright with sport bars or do they all have different bars?
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