2013 Husqvarna 650 Terra

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  1. RidingDonkeys

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    Disregard anything from Australia or Europe. They have different rules on spark arrestors. In the US, Terras will have round pipes with spark arrestors. Stradas will have the square pipes without arrestors.

    Spark arrestors and baffles are very different things. All baffles do some sort of spark arresting by default. But a screen spark arrestor doesn't baffle at all. All the bikes have baffles of some sort. That is what makes them quiet. Spark arrestors are only required on offroad bikes if I recall correctly, but several dual-sports have them. Hopefully that made sense.
  2. dirtykdx

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    Strada has no sparky, and better flow already. No need to remove baffles.

    I haven't seen a terra with the square outlets yet. But I have heard 1st run Strada's might have the baffled exhaust from the Terra.

    No need to get worked up over it. If you just want a loud exhaust you can do like Bill's did or wait to see what Kelly at motosportz is working on with the tuner and slip ons.
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    I attempted to take the spark arresters out, I removed the c clamp things but couldn't get the arresters out, after the first service I'll try harder.
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    My Strada has the welded square tips. I like the quiet.

    So this means I have no spark arrester? Does the Cat take care of that? Are there restrictions on where I can ride?
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    I know some of the parks out west require spark arrestors on dirt bikes and quads. They may well here on the east coast too, but I don't know for sure. Either way, I don't know that they check, and technically the baffling on the stock exhaust meets federal requirements.

    Spark arrestors are really targeted at two-strokes. The extra carbon build up in two strokes often leads to a sparky discharge. This isn't common for four-strokes at all.
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    While its true sparks from 4 stroke exhaust are not common ... they still enforce the Spark Arrestor law in California and probably other Western states as well.

    Any event you run (like a Dual Sport, Enduro or Family Enduro) will check for a Spark Arrestor. This has been SOP for decades. You can even get nailed riding in the National Forest, National Park and even some BLM lands.

    If you get a Ranger with a Hard On for bikes ... you can get a Whopper of a ticket ... like several hundred $$$. At the very least ... you will be BANNED from riding until you get the Sparky installed.

    This is basically another antiquated law that no one with a pulse in govt. has taken the trouble to revise. Four Stroke exhaust don't cause fires unless they tip over into dry brush or leak out gas and ignite it ... more common than you'd think.

    This just perpetuates the "myth" that a Spark Arrestor is needed on ALL bikes. No shortage of ignorance out there. Usually having a QUIET PIPE will
    mean the Rangers won't notice you.
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    Hmm, have any of you ever been behind a fourstroke at night? No sparks my ass. Those lean deceleration pops you hear are like a flame thrower.
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    Even with a cat in the system?
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    Try using circlip pliers and or small needle nose plyers and a flat screw driver.

    Somehow this thread is moving torwards the direction of spark arrester requirements in State Parks.....

    I just wanted to know which bike you could do it with
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    Spark arrestors in state parks around here is easy, if there is a stamp "USFS APPROVED SPARK ARRESTOR" it's legal. If not, well you have to rely on the ranger not being a moron. Example, the WR300 stock spark arrestor, does not have the stamp. Instead has Krizzman (or however it's spelled) and is dead obvious with the rivet locations and with the nail test. Stick a 12 nail in the exhaust hole, if it hits something, it's good to go.
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    Left this morning in the rain for a ride through the gorge from Knoxville to Asheville...all slab on the TR..(road over to Eurosport Asheville) brother n law bought new 90th edition BMW r1200R..he was on a '12 multistrada ..over and back...rain slacked off on return...Husky runs better the harder you run it...whole way back ....indicated 80 to 100 mph...pretty solid....great mileage. I'll be keeping the Strada for awhile.

    The multistrada was traded in on the R1200R...of course he didn't want to ride a brand new bike back through the gorge in the rain...so next weekend will be another trip...I hope next time it's not pouring rain. Still fun!
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    Okay, Im ready to shoot!

    What one should I get?

    Stada Out the door $6500
    Terra Out the door $6700

    I'm torn........because I will probably do mostly Street riding but want to be able to go off the road without problems.....
  14. RidingDonkeys

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    Get the Strada. Enjoy the ABS on the street. Throw on some more aggressive tires for offroad. The cast wheels will hold up fine for 90% of what most people do off road.

    If you decide you want to get more aggressive, order some spoke wheels aftermarket.
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    and the tire size matches my explorer on the Strada

    More opinions????


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    I think I've come full circle. Didnt seem to remember using the ABS much on this bike. I also couldnt take it off road. Same engine but with 20% less power. The wheels were 17 /17 vs. the Starta 17 / 19. It may be pretty much the same freaking thing. Dammm! Maybe I should by the Terra.....I dont know...
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    Rayzor61,

    I agree, go for the Strada. Think about the amount of time you'll be riding on the street --- with tubeless tires, you can plug a flat, re-inflate and be back on the road in short order. Also, the tubeless tires will give plenty of warning when they're gradually losing air rather than the very sudden deflation of a tube. On the street, there's no comparison + ABS.

    With the 19" front and 17" rear, you can tackle almost any terrain with a bit more aggressive tire -- like the Heidenau K60's.

    My opinion only, based upon my current list of singles: KLR650, DR650, DRZ400S, XR250R, WR250R and the Strada.
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    Anybody ride both bike back to back? What would they do? I have an Explorer 1200 Tiger to handle the long runs. It even goes well over boulders at 1 mph. I want to bite the ground and do wheelies here and there but mostly road riding....

    I know the strada can get some more agressive tires...

    ...how bout I buy the stada and trade the black body parts with a terra owner...lol!

    When I make the purchase, either one, should I demand that they prove it has the latest map? How can I get them to prove its on there? I dont believe it was on the demo because the first quarter throttle was choked up....
  18. RidingDonkeys

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    Concerning plastics, just order you an extra set. They run from $40-$60 normally. Most people are after the black plastics, so you could probably find more than a few Terra owners to trade with if you choose that route.

    Concerning the Moss flash, make sure your dealer actually has the Moss system first. Some dealers have sent them back from what I'm hearing.

    You'll know the difference in the throttle response. My throttle does not stumble at idle, period. Those without the flash report a lot of stumbling when cracking the throttle from idle.
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    One thing I've discovered on the Moss..(before or after treatment)..if you tow the bike any distance much at all.....especially if the elevation changes....when you first start the bike...allow it to idle. Without touching the throttle at all...for several minutes. I reckon it goes into a "learning" mode and does some self adjustment.....sure made a diifference in the way my bike runs.

    Another thumbs up to Eurosport Asheville in NC. They know what's what! Rare these days. All that work there seem to be enthusiast too. They like to come to work and it shows.
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    Rayzor,

    Wow....if the Strada was $200 more....it might be a harder decision. But in your shoes with what you've said your "mission statement" of riding on road more...save the $200 for farkles and pull the trigger before they are gone gone!

    I am happier each time I get on the Strada. I had a hard time picking between the two as well. Really boiled down to tubeless tires..(easier repair) and abs...which I wanted because I am old and slower....and spoiled by BMW sorta.