2013 Husqvarna 650 Terra

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by grunkster, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. Ogre_fl

    Ogre_fl Long timer

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    I wouldn't get your hopes up too much on a "proper" bigger tank (vs a strap on the side or rear rack type).
    Particularly not an affordable one or one any time soon.

    EFI bikes are not like KLR's/DR's/DRZ's
    Not only does the EFI make this more difficult, but so does the parameter type frame with the airbox located where the tank is on "regular" bikes

    This bike holds the same amount of fuel in the same place (yea under the seat) as the G650/Sertao.
    Ever see a tank for them?
    Tourtech sells a 9 gal one..... for $2,600 :huh

    The X-challenge with basically the same configuration only ever got the $800-900 great white whale Tourtech/Safari one.
    The X-country never got one at all and it at least ran for a few years longer.

    Safari might make one in time for $800, but I wouldn't count on someone like IMS making an affordable one.
  2. VxZeroKnots

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    I have a fuel injected Husky with a Safari tank. They are <$600 to your door shipped, the ugly ass IMS one is $<300. They also managed to make one for the KTM 690 for <$800.

    I think the aftermarket for this bike is going to be slightly different than it would for the BMW crowd, especially at this price point. I can get past the weight on this thing, and certainly realize the segment it is being marketed to but I really wish someone would take an engine like this or the WR250 and stick it in a premium chassis with premium suspension. 7.5" of travel with unadjustable damping? yeck.

    That being said I expect and hope this bike is successful. If husky can generate good cashflow for BMW then maybe the accountants will let some of the more wild ideas come to fruition.
  3. Ogre_fl

    Ogre_fl Long timer

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    How many years did it take for safari to come out with a tanks for the EFI bikes?

    The bikes all came out around 2008 right?
    It took a few years before they made tanks didnt it?

    Most of the back bone frame tanks like the Husky's are good looking, but the perimeter frame tanks like the 690 and the X-Challenge are hideous to me.

    Its hard to spend $300 for something ugly, real hard to spend $800 for it.
  4. jon6.0

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  5. VxZeroKnots

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    I have no idea on the timeframe, it is pretty unreasonable to expect them to have any aftermarket on a completely new bike overnight.

    When it comes to looks you either want the fuel or you don't, yeah it sucks to have ugly farkles but you gotta pay to play.
  6. SamM

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    I don't think anyone is expecting a bigger fuel tank anytime soon. And I don't think that an add-on fuel tank strapped between two hot mufflers is something I'm keen to try out anytime soon either. Touratech has been pretty good about supporting adventure riders by offering bigger tanks for certain models. They may support this one, since it's basically from BMW. If they're $2600 not many will line up for them though. I can live with 3+ gallons, if I have to and carry extra fuel with me. I'm not real excited about the fuel being under the seat. Just not a fan of that!
  7. nomad5326

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    Nothing like the KLR. A modern (and what should have been) Dakar/Sertao. I own (3) Dakars and I think I paid around $4k for each (used of course). If this price tag is correct, you could drop just around a grand in suspension and protection farkles and have a killer adv tourer extremely capable offroad/onroad. Makes me sad that BMW (if they don't have something up their sleeves) have let the Dakar/Sertao continue w/known needed mods and let this bike come to market. Hopefully BMW has modern/lighter frame, larger tank, taller screen and fully adjustable suspension 650GS in the works....
  8. nomad5326

    nomad5326 Xventurous

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    Sam, I have been running Rotopax/Wolfman luggage on my Dakar for quite a while and with zero issues. While I don't worry about gas onroad (easily 220-240+) , It's nice to have cross country offroad and esp riding Baja or w/buddies w/smaller tanks. These engines drink fuel through a thimble. An extra fuel bottle or rotopax should easily ease concerns of fuel is a concern. Either way, 0ne of those mufflers should be a CAT (same as Sertao/Dakar) w/very minimal heat if any. EIther way, w/sheilds (included in kit) there is no concern of excessive heat w/the tank...

    BTW, having the tank low, under the seat makes for a very low CG balanced bike. I only wish someone would make a underseat replacement tank for the Dakar/Sertao for use when you drop the extra exhaust. If you look at the 800GS that space is filled and balanced w/extra tank volume.
  9. Davidc83

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    You guys talk about bigger gas tanks. How many of you actually ride more than 200 miles before seeing a gas station? Really? I have a 2009 g650gs and get 200+ miles on it at 65mph when the fuel light comes on, 240+ miles at 45mph when the fuel light comes on-but it does have a 4.1 gallon tank. Even with the few more ponies the Husky has, you are still going to be close to 200 miles-heck I have a 600lb 800cc cruiser with a 4.1 tank that gets at least 200 miles on a tank.
    You can buy extra fuel canisters you can strap to your bags/bike/seat which are made for hard cross country travel which cost lots less than trying to rig up a 3rd party gas tank.
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    Davidc83 Been here awhile

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    If the Husky's cans are like the BMW G series, the left one doesnt get hot. It is the catalytic convertor. I can place my hand on mine at any time during running and it does not get hot; very minimal amount of air comes out of it and it is ambient air temperature.
  11. SamM

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    nomad5326,
    The reports are that there is very little heat, so I agree. I just remember my old KTM 950 cooking me and everything out back of me. Honestly, my riding really wouldn't require a bigger tank and as you said, a rotopax or maybe even two would provide plenty of backup to ease any concern. I won't want to add much more weight to the bike anyway. Racks, panniers and some protect is all mine would require. I have a set of Caribou Cases' 1550 Pelicans just waiting to go on a TR650. I'm trying to work a deal on one now.
  12. Ogre_fl

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    Wow they already replaced the rims.
    The X-Challange ones were junk, I had hoped for better on the Husky.
  13. RideAbout

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    East of the Rockies.. nah. Out West of the Rockies... you betcha! Just the other day on my KLR in the Oregon outback I was 160 miles into my tank when I decided to try a route out I'd never been. 35 miles in (off-road) I couldn't go any further and had to turn back. By the time I reached a small town with fuel I was over 230 miles into my tank.

    With real good planning I could find fuel in the Outback every 100-130 miles... but part of the fun is just going...not planning my route looking for gas.

    "Hey whats up there, over that ridge, down in that canyon?"
    "I don't know, better not, I might not have enough fuel" :(:
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    yup same here, rideabout and I are on dirt, and we arent the only ones,, when i had a KLR and then 640a i was frequently having to detour and head into a town for fuel. and those bikes are good for over 300 miles.

    fuel range is real and something you need to plan around when traveling/exploring off road.
  15. mxbundy

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    What size cans are these?
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    SBG Neville1 to TT boys

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    They won't bother. The Dakar is the low bux model they get some people with, and then when you look at the 800 or 1200, you ponder if they are worth the extra money with the better features, and they usually are. The Dakar would be worth an extra $1500 easy with a quility shock and some upsidedown adjustable forks. However, doing this puts the price closer to the 800, and then they have to retool for the 650 which will take from the 800's price cushion.
  17. Ogre_fl

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    You really have to think with BMW's penchant for killing off 650 single class bikes, the G650GS & Sertao are probably doomed to be axed again.
  18. itsatdm

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    Yes some places in Nevada, Utah, Southern Idaho and Eastern Oregon, 200 miles would be minimum. Stay on the Freeways and you are good, get off pavement or even a few of the state highways, you may not be.

    The mom and pops are drying up. Combination of emissions standards they can't meet or re route of roads. Some times the remote stations may or may not have gas. You can't count on them or they may only have one grade, which brings up another problem. The bike requires premium.

    Maybe a reason for the KLR. I don't like to ride them, but appreciated some one who did.

    Both my bikes do 200mi. Never knew of the Nomad tank, that looks good. It is not comfortable riding in remote areas with just enough. 1 missed turn can be dangerous.
  19. Ogre_fl

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    I am a little concerned with the fuel filler arrangement on these.

    I like that its up front on center, but I live in the boonies and often fill my bikes from a jerry can rather than ride into town if I don't have too.
  20. Royal Tiger

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    Just looking it over in person my only wish was that it sat higher. The Sertao was noticeably taller.