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Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by grunkster, Sep 11, 2012.
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I don't think eakins purposely tried to offend anyone, it's just that these forums have a tendency for all of us to forget there is another person behind a keyboard somewhere. I'm not sure about being thin skinned but maybe more " what's the friggin point?".
It's all about contribution. Good reminder for me to work on my comments to others.
Lets hope BigDog returns - his input on the Terra I found to be very helpful. Off the soapbox...
Wow, that's too bad... He must have really thin skin to behave like that over a little jabbing here and there. I mean it's not like he's some wizard or something. He's just another motorcycle enthusiast with a shop and some fab skills to go along with his creative impulses.
I enjoyed his various contributions over the years, though. I read his CBR report and promptly went out and bought a WRR for myself. I modded it to my tastes and then rode the CDR. What a blast! Then I left it in Phoenix and rode some of his GWT path. I even scouted some new sections. So I guess I owe a lot of my recent motorcycle explorations to Mark's contributions on this forum.
Well, you can't worry about inmates taking unusual offense to a few jabs or challenges. If you set yourself up as some sort of authority figure, a few people are going to take their shots. It's part of the fun. He did a real good job of assessing the new Husky, though.
no Mark and I have traded PMs in the past and sent each other goods (maps from me & dvd from him) we make. I've got nothing but solid respect for the man & his accomplishments. I've had my share of off-the-cuff responses to others that are not in agreement or worded the best, but nobody is perfect.
He's publicly stated he does things more cheaply in solution and so I thought it humorous that he bought that small & expensive Motosportz skid plate plus hacked apart that pricey Husky plate too and created a $400 skid plate solution. This from a guy proud of his other low cost solutions.
I figure he would have taken Motosportz plate to a welder to and add some side wings and send that Husky plate back for credit. It sounds like he got some mad scientist urge in the middle of the night and just started cutting up that Husky plate...and that's why I asked if he was an impatient man. It was not meant as any disrespect and something I would have said face to face with a big smile...but alas words only miss all the non-verbal that needs to happen.
I've gotten PMs from others that they've had similar exchanges with Mark.
It's a public forum and there are always opposite views of your own. Mark is very out spoken on his mods and view points and he has contributed a ton to ADV. It sounds like he finally got to the feed up point of getting feedback (that is not always in agreement) and said fuck it i'm done taking my time and sharing my mods only to be criticized by some.
I do hope he does return and atleast keep the thread updated how his TR is doing.
This is called a discussion board where people discuss the merits and warts of motorcycles.
In this forum in this post we discuss the Husky Terra 650.
People have opinions and they want to let their opinions be known.
If you want to only discuss the merits of the Husky 650 Terra then I suggest that you create your own forum board with the stated purpose of only discussing the merits of the Husky 650 Terra.
At some point there will be no discussion as everyone will be holding hands and singing Kumbya.
Dissenting opinions are a good thing.
Discussion is a good thing.
Endlessly regurgitating the sales brochure in the name of discussion is boring.
yes, this happens all the time on ADV for those who write up guides/my mods etc.
there is always someone not liking it all (and vocal about saying so), some indifferent, some liking those ideas and some who flat out copy what you've done.
it's a public & impersonal forum and that's how people work.
All you Terra/Strada owners~wondering if either one of these has the potential to add extra range on the bike. I don't own one to physically stare it down.
What do you think?
Hot Rod Welding's X Tank - obviously requires the 2 into 1 exhaust conversion. Adds 1.72 gallons:
ADV Tank - restricts some tail luggage options. Adds 1.6 gallons:
On an other matter...KEYS....does the Terra use Husky or BMW blanks....? Anyone know? I'd like to get some spare keys made - I like to keep a backup in my wallet. Evidently, Husqvarna doesn't readily provide blanks....[/QUOTE]
BMW key blanks should work. I had 3 keys made at a local locksmith.
Too bad Big Dog left. I used his posts to fix my kickstand and install a booster plug.
I had one of the first Strada's to arrive here in the US, picked it up October 26th. It ran like crap. Stalled with just throttle input, hesitated below 4k with any sort of roll on. A huge disappointment.
The good news is it's all better now. Dealer took a while to get their diagnostic computer in and running, but finally were able to get it working and fix my bike. They were a bit vague, but apparently running resetting the EFI system and running a test sequence on the idle actuator? made it run a lot better. I put 75 miles on it on the way home and it's dramatically better. No stalls, not stutter, stumble, does not feel lean. I ran it down to 2k rpm in 5th, then just rolled on from there. If careful I can now just ease the clutch out at idle in 1st and get rolling without any throttle.
I was planning on the booster plug solution when I got the bike back, but there's no need. It's just fine bone stock after the reprogramming.
I highly recommend folks get their dealer involved if there bike isn't running right. See http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/moss-tool-works-awesome.29435
Glad to hear this. I saw your bike at the dealer when I tested the demo. The demo had that lean condition and it made me think twice about it. I wasn't sure if it would work for me. I do like the bike. I think it has a lot of potential.
Owners keep it coming..................
One of Husqvarna requirements to sell the 650, is buying their computer. Total mapping control can be done buy a tech that knows how to use it. The lean issue is a known problem, but is neccessary to pass EPA. Any addition of fuel is for "off road use only". So some dealers my be hesitant to do the "fix" and making themselves liable.
Take the service manager out to lunch.
This is what's making me nervous about buying the TR650. Closest dealer is several hours away and sure as hell don't want to keep running my bike back and forth if an issue arises.
You evidently haven't played with the service tool yourself? The interface for the Keihin equipped TR650's is nothing like IBeat where the bikes were severely restricted both mechanically and in the tuning software. The the TR650 all the dealer can do is re-set the adaptives which if the bike is assembled correctly at the dealership should hardly ever be an issue. The most important thing with the TR650 and BMW G650's is to not play with the throttle at all during start up and particularly do not twist the throttle prior to hitting the start button. Doing so will put the EFI into a limp mode which is not optimal. Upon installing of the battery for the first time, the TR650 should have key turned on and started without any input to the throttle what so ever, then let it idle until cooling fan comes on. Let it cool, start it up again and go test ride. By about the 3rd or 4th heat/cool cycle the 650's will typically run great. If for some reason the adaptives become corrupt, such as from starting with throttle applied or too tight of a throttle cable, then the service computer is hooked up and those adaptives are zero'd out and then do to adaptive process all over again. There is very little to any "tuning" available by the dealer for the TR650's, just diagnostics.
While this may be the case, some dealers are selling the bikes before they have the computer. That's great if the bike works, not so great if the bike doesn't. Mine waited at the shop for five weeks until the computer arrived, got set up, etc. Once that happened fixing my bike was trivial.
If you want to make sure your dealer is prepared to take care of you in the event of an issue I'd make sure to verify they 1) have the computer, 2) have it set up, 3) have been trained on it. If they haven't you should consider if you feel lucky before making the purchase.
Hopefully this is a short term issue while the dealers get up to speed.
Your welcome to try mine, I'm just across the river. It's a dramatically different bike after the fix.
For prospective buyers, I wouldn't let the lean issue hinder you. My Terra is from the "2nd batch" and hasn't had one issue. I've never stalled it, and it busts off some good wheelies out of second gear no problem. An added bonus is the kickstand stays down too.
It sucks to get a new bike in winter but I'm determined to get some more miles in. Just finished my heated grip install (with relay) lastnight and wired up my heated vest. I put bar risers form Motorsportz on and Fat Bars along with Cycra guards. MT21 tires go on tonight. I'm holing out for a beefier skid plate. Altrider and Touratech are saying 4-8 weeks...
I sold my 650 Strom and got this bike because I could do gnarlier terrain and have more fun in the burly stuff. I already have a single track bike. I feel like this is the perfect medium between the two. It's got a sweet engine and is butter smooth. The suspension is better than the Japanese offerings, and the CG is really nice and balanced. Also, the headlight is nice and bright too. This is a bike you can travel on and do some pretty rough stuff with too. But, I'd ride a Harley with knobbies on it if that's all I had! Overall, I'm really happy with this offering from Husky and I plan on having a hell of a lot of fun with it! Just my thoughts.
I wish this thread would have more pictures of bikes and people riding them rather than seemingly endless theoretical posts about the ability or otherwise of dealers to service the thing.
What is new or different in the auto world (cars and bikes) about crappy dealer service that needs continual recapping?
You are on the wrong site. At http://www.cafehusky.com/forums/tr650.28/ there are lots of pics and info for you there. More organized with pics and topics in designated categories. Lots more info too. This thread shows the true meaning to clusterf$&@ if you are looking for something specific. Great thread, dont get me wrong, just a lot to take in and find the specific info you want.
Lots of good stuff over there. Hopefully more new owners will start adding pics and mods here.
I have a test ride on a Terra organised for tomorrow morning. Apparently the actual sale stock will be arriving in Australia in January.