2013 Husqvarna 650 Terra

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by grunkster, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. K1W1

    K1W1 Long timer

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    I think you could also add Suzuki to that list. It wouldn't take much work on their part to turn the DR into a bike like a Terra and they should have done that 5 years ago IMO.
  2. HighFive

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    No, I did not receive any tools whatsoever. I didn't find anything underneath the seat. Thanks for the link to the Service Manual. Your Memory Stick might not be corrupted. If text is showing up as a bunch of jumbled up characters, its probably for a MAC, not a PC. Try that before you toss it. The little red stick that came with my owners manual, with a Husky logo on it, is simply an electronic file of the same thing printed in the book…..which is pretty much worthless. If you indeed believe the Dealer gave you the Service Manual on a stick, insert it into MAC.


    I'll give a full comparison in the near future. Let me get some more time on the Terra. I need a skid plate, handguards, etc and some time to hit the woods.

    Your "sense" is right on target…..right between the WRR and F800. The WRR has better woods manners, I'm sure, but that doesn't mean the Terra isn't capable (yet). My offroad playtime has actually surprised me, so far. The Terra behaved considerably better than I expected. It will have to be geared down a bit for trail duty. I will be going down one tooth on the drive sprocket, for starters.

    The F800 definitely has more power (85 vs. 50 +/-), and is a twin vs. a single, but it also weighs 100 lbs more than the Terra. The cool thing is the Terra has real Beemer-like road manners in both handling and power. However, it feels very compact and nimble when in motion. Quite cleverly designed, I think.

    The Terra motor is definitely smoother than either the WRR or F800GS. Mine has flawless fuel metering in the FI. The stock WRR and F800 do not.




    Gomer, your excitement is warranted. Looks better in person, than in photos. Rides much better than it looks. You'll understand, if you get the chance.

    Regarding your rating of the WRR, I disagree. I've got as much experience with a WRR as just about anybody. I rate it as a true 50/50 dualsport. It is not in the 80/20 league (those would be plated dirtbikes like my Husaberg, a KTM EXC, Beta, etc). I'm not saying the WRR isn't a barrel of fun in the woods….but its a fair bit of work in the rough stuff due to its 300+ weight and stable road manners. In comparison, the Husaberg feels like I'm cheating no matter how rough it gets....and is surprisingly nice on the road. That's why I rate the Berg 80/20 and the WRR 50/50. My $2 worth.

    HF
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  3. HighFive

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    I was loaded down with pre-Christmas chores again today, but managed to sneak in another 100 miles of riding before dark. I've put over 400 miles on it the past 3 days. I returned to the Twisties....solo this time. No interruptions. no distractions. I wanted to really focus on the bike performance now that I'm quite familiar with it. The Dragon of the Cherokees has about 100 curves in 7 miles, and today, no traffic! I had it absolutely to myself.

    So, I pushed it a little….ok, maybe a lot. I was having a sick amount of fun. Hear me now and believe me later, the TR650 is STUPID FAST in the tight twisties. I clicked into 4th gear and just left it there the whole run. I've ridden every one of my bikes thru here multiple times. Never, have I been able to leave a bike in one single gear for the whole run. The torque and power just seemed perfect for me. To be certain, I'm no road racer. Just a guy out having fun who scraped a peg today. :eek1

    Makes me want to try it all over again on a Strada. Man-oh-man, that's got to be something special in the Twisties. This is probably the most comfortable I've been pushing a bike faster than I probably should. I was completely confident in my control of the bike. The stability, handling, & power delivery are very inspiring. Swear I could hear the bike speaking to me: "No problem...twist it more....I can handle it....let's go" Smooth as butter, I'm telling you.

    Weather appears to be taking a plunge for the next several days. Maybe I'll finally get to do some wrenching...

    HF :jose
  4. krussell

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    Wanted a top case for the Strada, but didn't want to part with the $300-400 for the Husky Givi stuff. Went with a Pelican 2450 IM2450, $122 + $8 of stuff from the local hardware store. Pretty happy with the result, but the storm has a lot of flex in the bottom. Will likely end up doing some sort of plate to stiffen the bottom.

    The rack pulls off easily, four T45 screws and it's off. They bottom of the rack has wells for nuts at three locations, a M8 nut fits perfectly. I scoped things out visually, confirmed with a few measurements, and then started drilling. Picked up M8-25 bolts, flat and fender washers, and M8 nuts. The wells for the nut prevent the case being removed without access to the inside of the case.

    Husky calls for 19NM of torque on the rack mounting bolts, they had blue thread lock which I replaced. The box can be removed easily without removing the rack.

    On to the pics...

    The bike without the rack.

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    The box box.

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    The bare rack.

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    The hardware.

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    The nut wells.

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    Voiding the warranty on the case.

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    Finished product from the inside.

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  5. ducnut

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    I'm a little concerned that you didn't use nylock nuts to prevent loosening. I'm thinking with the rack and box both being plastic and compressible, standards nuts will allow the bolts to loosen.

    Nice stable of bikes, BTW.
  6. krussell

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    Excellent observation. My hardware store, which is usually very good at having this stuff, was out of M8 nylocks. I'll get some, but in the interim used blue threadlock.

    Thanks!
  7. Dalmatino

    Dalmatino Been here awhile

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    Another thought...I would cut out a pice of 1/8 aluminium or stainless thats larger in area than all 3 mounting points inside and sandwich the case. This will minimize the vibration and stop the case from cracking at the washer areas....Just a thaught....
  8. ClintTX

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    Just finished reading the review of the Terra in the latest Motorcyle Consumer News. Positive for the most part and they believe it will steal sales from the Sertao. I think it will certainly steal sales from the dr650 and KLR. They think it is fun and value packed.

    They dislike the tires for off-road and note a high speed weave at 80. Seen this mentioned with many dual purpose bikes, usually attributed to the beak and/or tire pressure. Often addressed with rigid aftermarket front fender. I would appreciate any of your views on the high speed stability. My intended use is hard pack, light sand and 70% paved roads.
  9. dman

    dman Been here awhile

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    I know this is the Terra thread, but what do people think about the Strada? I know, 19" wheel bla bla but with a TKC it would OK for most roads or even the easy trails that_I_ would ride a 650 on. And I've been telling myself for a few years that my next bike should have ABS .... My only concern would be fragile alloys? I haven't had a chance to look at one yet; there was only a Terra at the bike show here last month. It should be hard to install a wire 21" anyway, perhaps a Sertao or Dakar wheel and rotor would bolt right up?

    -dman
  10. Butters

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    I did a very similar install on my X-Challenge with the same size hardware and washers. However, my setup had 4 bolts instead of three and the TT rack probably has a bit more surface area. I also used a Storm 2100 vs the 2450. That said, I've had my tools and other stuff in there for about two years and never had any issues.

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    I think the surface area of the washers, the flexibility of the plastic, and the rack as a base really minimizes the stress on the box. YMMV.
  11. Kainic

    Kainic Almost there

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    Good to see BigDogs Terra blog is backup on his site. :clap
  12. Deans BMW

    Deans BMW Granpa Hoon

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    I purchased a Strada, because of the cast wheels, easy to plug tubeless tires and for my type of dirt, forest and fire roads, just perfect, great in the twisties up here also.
  13. K1W1

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    If you look at my photos back on about page 85 you will see that the front hub of the Terra is actually stamped as a BMW part. It would say that is the exact same hub and wheel you get on. Serato.
    There is a lot of badge engineering in the Huskys and there should be an awful lot of interchangeble parts between the Huskys and their German cousins.
  14. Ol'NumNuts

    Ol'NumNuts A Bloke and his Akita- Flynn

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    +1 :thumb

    I'd like to say more but the walls have ears and are clearly tissue paper thin.......
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  15. krussell

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    I consider this the TR650 Terra/Strada thread. The bikes are very similar except for wheels/fender/abs. I picked up the Strada, my bias being being street. Eats up the pavement. Pics from today's 230 mile ride...

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  16. HighFive

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    Weather deteriorating….temps dropping to low 40's….and I couldn't stand it anymore. I had to get offroad in the dirt for awhile, even though I don't have a skid plate yet.

    No big deal, just kept it on some nice two-track.

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    She's not fooling me anymore….this baby rips in the dirt. Handles quite nicely in the moderate trail. I still don't feel the heavy (spec-sheet) weight. The slow speed torque was better than I expected in 1st gear. I crawled thru some rock piles and ledges rather slowly (with my feet on the pegs…of course). More testing is required before I swap out that drive sprocket.

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    Here's some video I shot by myself. Ain't much, I know, so just use your imagination…


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    The motor is strong enough to power up a wheelie in 1st gear without any clutch assistance. I shot this video clip in attempt to demonstrate that.


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    The motor will loft the front-end on demand.

    Regarding the 5-speed gearbox, here is a comparison of speeds achieved for same rpm in each gear:

    Gear / 4,000rpm / 5,000rpm

    1st / 20 mph / 25 mph
    2nd / 32 mph / 40 mph
    3rd / 44 mph / 53 mph
    4th / 55 mph / 65 mph
    5th / 65 mph / 80 mph


    I refilled my tank with 2.9 US Gallons on 160 miles = 55 mpg

    I noticed the fuel usage indicator (on the electronic display) said usage = 2.91 USG

    So, that whizmo is reading spot on the money. Good to know.

    Merry Christmas! My gift today is some more photos for all the wannabes.

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    Pull the trigger! You won't regret it.

    HF :deal

    p.s I'm really liking the streamlined dual exhaust. Its quiet, yet has nice balanced sound when you get on it. I have no plans whatsoever to change it. The motor is working so well, I might not even give it a Canisterectomy for fear of jinxing it.
  17. LeGitan

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    Not sure if this is the right thread but here goes:

    Can anybody confirm that the engine will fit in an X-Challenge frame?

    The bike I'm going to build currently has 30000+ KM on the clock and I have no idea how it was treated so... I would have bought a new XCh but putting a new engine, suspension, bearings and wheels on mine seems like a good alternative :D

    Not sure I can buy an separate engine for a reasonable price but I can always swap engines with a strada and keep the Husky as a city weapon :)

    Thoughts?
  18. Dualsport

    Dualsport Maker of Sweet Cheek

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    Same engine but different head, cam, timing, compression...
    The Husky engine is tuned to run the way it does, with the Husky ignition and F.I. management.
    Running it with the BMW ignition and fuel management may not get the results you are looking for.
    Plus the fact the use of different heads may cause a problem with air box hook up.
  19. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    Those are some nice photos.. your camera must rival the Terra.

    What rpm does the rev limiter kick in at?
  20. HighFive

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    1) Nikon D7000.....love it.

    2) Not below 6,000 rpm....that's as far as I've wound mine up so far. Another 100 miles and the first oil change, then I'll let her rip till I hit the Limiter, and let you know.

    HF:thumbup