2013 Husqvarna 650 Terra

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  1. PirateJohn

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    Huh? BMW had four wheel drive to their sedans long before they got involved with Land Rover.

    Anyway, my Disco II with Bosch electricals was a vast improvement over the pre-BMW Lucas electricals in my Range Rover, I'll tell ya ;)


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  2. tdrrally

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    i work for a shop that sells both ktm and husky. the parts system for ktm is worlds better than husky.

    bang for the buck i would still buy the husky over a ktm :evil
  3. Adv Grifter

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    Just a guess ... not enough known at this point. I'm not familiar enough with Pierer's position within KTM regards Bajaj. How much power does he retain after selling off nearly half of KTM to Bajaj? Lots of questions ... and I'm guessing most will be answered in coming days. Follow Alan Cathcart for a good industry analysis. He really knows the Italian Moto industry and gets the best interviews with CEO's throughout the moto industry. But you still have to read between the lines. Once it's all settled Cathcart will be able to explain details to all of us commoners.

    I'm waiting to here firm comments on this from BMW Motorad. Until then I classify it as an interesting rumor. :D
  4. Cruz

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    Here's the official press release by BMW

    Sale of Husqvarna Motorcycles to Pierer Industrie AG

    Munich. The BMW Group is realigning its BMW Motorrad business. In the context of changing motorcycle markets, demographic trends and increasing environmental demands, BMW Motorrad will expand its product offering to exploit future growth potential. The focus of the realignment will be on urban mobility and e-mobility. By restructuring the segment, the BMW Group will concentrate on expanding and utilising the resources of the BMW Motorrad brand. Therefore the BMW Group signed a purchase agreement with Pierer Industrie AG (Austria) for the acquisition of Husqvarna Motorcycles. The acquisition will proceed subject to approval by anti-trust authorities. Both companies have agreed not to disclose the purchase price.

    Expanded offering for urban mobility and e-mobility

    BMW Motorrad achieved a new sales record in 2012. With the realignment of its motorcycle business, BMW Motorrad aims to maintain profitable and sustainable growth over the coming years. Its current core business consists exclusively of premium vehicles in the categories “Tourer”, “Enduro”, “Sport”, “Roadster” and “Maxi-Scooter” from 650 to 1600 cc. BMW Motorrad entered the urban mobility segment for the first time in 2012 with the C 650 GT and C 600 Sport maxi-scooters. The next step in the expansion of the product line-up in this segment will be the series launch of the “C evolution” electric scooter in 2014. Further innovative vehicle concepts are also under consideration. Drive trains will include both environmentally-friendly combustion engines and pure electric drives. This move by BMW Motorrad reflects the BMW Group’s overall focus on early identification of trends, such as megacities and traffic density, as well as environmental issues. Corresponding products and services are already available for the Automobile segment.

    Continuation of product offensive

    In addition to the expansion in the field of urban mobility, core segments from the 650 single-cylinder entry-level bike to the 6-cylinder luxury tourer will also be selectively expanded.
  5. Mobiker

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    I hear ya. The Strada was at the top of my list as a potential new bike purchase this year. Now its not. I don't want a low volume orphan regardless of how great a bike it is. I tend to keep bikes a long time if I like them. Parts and accessories may not be a problem down the road, but I'm not rich enough to roll the dice. If parts and accessories become hard to find it'll kill resale value too - the hardcore Husky guys won't be interested in a street oriented bike and the non-hardcore will buy something else.

    If they keep building the Strada and I don't buy something else, maybe I'll reconsider in a couple of years.
  6. Adv Grifter

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    Thanks for posting that! :clap So now we're getting somewhere!
    I still feel the sale is a big mistake. But just IMHO. BMW's have already eaten it trying to sell their Odd Ball $10,000 Maxi scooters. Several failed projects in the last 10 years. The Chinese, Koreans and Japanese will crucify them in the Scooter segment.

    Electric bikes are up for grabs but LOTS of players here too ... who ALL can under cut the crap out of BMW's inflated pricing. Perhaps the EU will go for BMW's big scooters? ... but I don't believe they will EVER sell in the USA. Too big, too expensive and ... UGLY! :lol3
  7. kawagumby

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    Seems to me the Terra is a good fit for what the new owner wants; stealing sales from Japanese bikes. It's unlikely that the Terra will be lost in the shuffle - more likely some of the Husky dirt bikes will be scrutinized for similarities to their KTM counterparts.
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    Man, that's a good point ... if dealers panic that could happen.
    But I'm sure the "deal" will extend whatever contract BMW have with Loncin for Husky motors over to the NEW owner. As long as payments are made the Chinese have no reason to not honor the contract and continue to produce the motors and spare parts. The new owners will be obligated to support existing Terra/Strada bikes (and all other current Huskies).

    If they cease production in China ? Well, now that would be interesting. Would Pierer take production to India? Austria? Back to Italy?
    Theories? Guesses? Seems to me Pierer is committed to Loncin for a while ... if for no other reason than to obtain spares for existing Terra/Stradas.
  9. Jeathrow Bowdean

    Jeathrow Bowdean Been here awhile

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    Hummmmm !!! It seems to me, that a Hennry Ford thing is going down here, and BMW might be it's own worst enemy by having something that is less then the BMW model, and by droping the price of a 650cc unit. It will put some pressure Honda to get thier XR 650L in check in Canada at $8200 + shiping/ set up fee/ and tax. But husky will have the same added to it I'm sure.

    It look likes battle lines are foruming boys and girls, so find a hill top to watch it build !!!

    From Jeathrow Bowdean
  10. AltRoute

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    :dognow what do I do :hmmmmm


    I was so going to get this bike but the TR is almost all BMW accept for the Husqy fuel tank and stickers ( and thoes cool pipes) - it can't last in its present state - :deal
    It will end up like the TE 630 - as good as it was, it's only out for a couple years - droped - now try and gets parts in a couple years.
  11. kawagumby

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    Jeez, I've been into dirt bikes for over 40 years, models can change completely in a two year span - you still get parts. Some companies do nothing but make aftermarket parts for other companies. This engine has the same bearings, rods, tranny, etc that are found in other bikes - . Pistons are no big deal. So the head is modified from other engines, but how often do you replace the entire head. And that's a worst case scenario - which is not probable. Why worry over the unlikelyhood of a short-lived Terra and Strada - the bike is a runner and will continue to be popular regardless of corporate ownership.
  12. Jeathrow Bowdean

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    I"m sure that there will be some changes as the unit goes forward, being that a few bugs might need some working out. They might change a few thing here and there in year 2 and 3, and most bikes have done this in there life time.

    First and second year units need time to find what works, then by all means. I fell pray to this in the snowmobile world, and now I'm gun shy. If you don't have 5 years behind you, then you don't even get a look from me !!!

    From Jeathrow Bowdean PS: One knot plus Two knot knot is Knot Three !!!
  13. Butters

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    I've never once regretted buying my one-year-run G650X. The Terra seems head and shoulders above anything comparable (KLR, G650GS) in the bigger DS niche. If it does end up being a one year run, which I doubt as it seems to very selling quite well unlike the G650X bikes, I would only worry about aftermarket. Skid plates and factory racks already exist, so I can't think of too many Terra-specific items that one would need. All else can certainly be easily adapted.

    Seriously, what parts would you reasonably envision needing that is specific only to the Terra? Do you really want to be putzing around on a KLR three years from now because you were worried about getting a headlight protector?
  14. netteb16

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    :up What he said I think.
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    This is a little different than a model change. This is similar to when BMW bought out Husqvarna. What ever happened to that 630?

    What I read into this, is that existing models will have more KTM content. Didn't that happen to Husaberg?

    If this model or one like it continues, it is not going to have a BMW designed engine it.

    BMW can supply a lot of the parts, except for the electronics and upper end. It won't have much effect on current owners, but it certainly will have an effect on sales. Bikes don't sell, they get cut.

    It doesn't worry me especially, having owned a Yamaha TDM 850 here in the US 2 years and a KLX650 here for 4 yrs.

    Read the forums. The common wisdom on those bikes, is don't buy one, can't find parts or aftermarket.
  16. HighFive

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    Well.....I can tell you this for sure: if I didn't already have a Terra, I would be running to find one tomorrow! :deal

    Its simply a dream to ride in its current configuration. The BMW motor that's in it is wonderful. Swap out that engine with an LC4 (or modern equal) and I'm not nearly as interested. I love Love LOVE this motor exactly the way it currently is.

    The Terra is an incredibly fun bike to ride. I've got tools. I know how to find BMW parts, if I ever needed to. BMW will be supporting the G650 motor (and Sertao) for a many moons to come.

    I'm not sweating it in the least. But, I still wish it had not happened.....if nothing more for the hesitation its causing potential buyers (evidenced in this Thread).

    HF :thumbup

    p.s. who knows....maybe it will even get better with than we imagined. [​IMG]
  17. Deans BMW

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    +1, except that mine is a Strada....:clap
  18. RuggedExposure

    RuggedExposure Now with more rugged

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    Like I said before, I'm more worried about aftermarket companies abandoning the Terra since it will only be made for a year or two.
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  20. kawagumby

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    First off, you're assuming it will only be made for a year or two...and there is absolutely nothing to indicate that will ultimately be the case. Second, there are many aftermarket parts, skid plates, guards, etc that are already being made for this bike. The companies that make them will not likely throw away the expensive tooling as long as there are customers.


    Funny thing is...I'm like Highfive...this bike is a keeper for reasons that go beyond these kinds of issues. I'm already thinking about making my own rear fender ass'y just for fun - one that will survive the inevitable dirt crash in our future. Maybe because I'm used to paying nearly 8K for dirt bikes and immediately modding them, crashing them into oblivion, repairing etc., it just doesn't bother me to have to fiddle a bit to keep a good bike rolling.:lol3 If I get a good bike, I keep it for a long time....nowadays it doesn't take long to find the best pipelines for parts, etc. it's all good.