2013 KTM Adventure 1190

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by goodcat8, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. luckygrownup

    luckygrownup Been here awhile

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    A reason for this would be greatly appreciated. I ride a GSA, but in my mind always thought a KTM 990 would be a better bike for me.

  2. hubilado

    hubilado Motoquiero

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    We haven't actually accurately measured the fuel mileage....supposed we should have, especially at $10/gallon!:D , but we haven't. I can say, however, that it gets way better mileage than our 950. We've done quite a lot of days of well over 200 miles on a tank without hitting reserve.
  3. PPiA

    PPiA Pete

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    I rode the std 1190, not the R.
    The 1190 is a great bike, the GS just felt better to me.
    I got off the 1190 thinking, "that was nice", and walked away.
    I got off the GS thinking "I want one".
  4. okeanis1234

    okeanis1234 Been here awhile

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    Hey all!!!i get my new 1190 adventure on monday,and i ordered an Akrapovic,too.the dealer said to me that the new exhaust doesn't need a software upgrade to the bike,although as i know from other bikes,the exhaust is always combined with a new software.is that true?has anyone installed an Akrap with or without new software???
  5. AdventureLeo

    AdventureLeo Adventurer

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    There is no need for another mapping with the Akrap. We discussed that matter in another German KTM forum.
    Without the DB eater it's probably necessary - but with the Akro for the 1190 this isn't possible to remove the DB eater as easy anyhow.

    Greetings
  6. wpbarlow

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    That sucks-- crossing it off my list right now! :lol3


    Thanks for the report-- ditto to everyone else that's providing first hand experience.
  7. Tiggersteve

    Tiggersteve Adventurer

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    If you own a GSA go ride a new GS it will surprise you how good it is, a proper modern motorcycle, punchy motor (until you ride a KTM tho) light and I imagine easy to live with,
    back to the KTM, bonkers engine, goes ballistic after 5-6k an absolute blast to ride but
    seat hard and made my ar#e go numb,
    screen is noisy,
    tried suspension in various modes and always felt too hard and cos it's electronic there is no fine adjustment, I think i would prefer standard stuff,
    when "getting a shift on" it gets a bit light and a tad vague, would like to try one with michelin PR3 road tyres
    I was quite dissapointed as I was really keen to try one,
    these are my personal opinions of course, a friend has just bought one, has a few of the same issues which he will sort and he racks up the miles, (will use him as guinea pig) will wait and see and when the time comes I will try it again,
  8. Newbusa

    Newbusa Been here awhile

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    Checked out the new GS recently and the base price here in Canada was 22,500,just wondering what the difference in price between the 1190 and the GS is in Europe?:ear
  9. Mugatu

    Mugatu Sidewalk adventurer

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    Prices for France: the ktm 1190 adventure is listed at 13990€, and the GS LC at 15150€ (but the GS doesn't have traction control at this price, the option costs 305€... only it HAS to come with ESA - add 760€ on top).
  10. shay

    shay reading is hard

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    I use a touratech screen extender which gives me zero noise or vibration. I can ride with the visor ajar at motorway speeds. The seat is firm but I've had worse, I toured france on a fireblade (954), now that had a hard seat !!

    I had my 1190 at 200kph and it was rock steady and I've ridden it across some very rough roads and found the suspension to be spot on. I haven't tried the new GS so can't compare but I really like this bike. I came from a 2006 vfr which I owned from new so the upright riding position and torquey engine are a revelation.

    The 23 litre tank gives a true 200 mile range, a good compromise between a GS and GS adv and service intervals are 15,000km / 10,000 miles.

    Choosing a new bike is a very individual experience and that's what makes them such fun
  11. Bails

    Bails Been here awhile

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    You're doing the comparison I intend. Wondering what your current ride is ? I have a 1200 Multi Strada and the one thing I enjoy is the get up and go. I have owned a string of BM's and quite like them but performance is an important part of my equation.
    I toured NZ on a GSA two up and loved it, in fact nearly purchased one at a good price when I got back but decided to wait for the wet motor. A GSA might still be the bike for me, would like to get some idea of what the new one will be like.
    The orange bike does interest me, seems it is more dual purpose than all the others , has decent build quality, unlike the Italian crap I currently own, and performance . So I need to organise a ride !
  12. KTM Pilot

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    I rode the 1190 yesterday as well. Would have been more relevant to ride the 'R' as that is what I would like.

    However, I finished up with the same experience as PPia, i.e. - 'that was nice...'

    I was expecting to have my arms near ripped-off, but it was nowhere close. ** Note - the bike only had 100+ km's on the clock, so still tight.

    Jumping back on my bike to ride home, only confirmed my assessment - my 990 has a more aggressive power delivery (low to mid at least) that just makes it more 'fun' (possibly read 'hooligan').

    I will return in a couple of weeks to try again once the test bike is run-in. Hope to be impressed then.
    The 'R' on the floor was wheeled out by it's new owner while I was there.

    My wife was most pleased on my slightly disappointed test ride....
  13. pebble35

    pebble35 Long timer

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    Did you switch the electronics off, particularly the MTC (traction control) whilst you were o the test ride ? With the traction control on it backs the power off to keep the front wheel moving forwards, instead of straight upwards and can feel a little down on power. Switch it off and take care with the throttle in the first three or four gears :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
  14. Tiggersteve

    Tiggersteve Adventurer

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    I would agree pebbles, I actually turned the traction off as I felt that it may be constantly monitoring even tho you can't feel it and KTM Pilot it doesn't literally rip your arms off but if you didn't get her above 6k your in for a surprise when you go back,
  15. Frog uk

    Frog uk Been here awhile

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    IMO getting an "Adventure" bike and then having to ride over 6,000 rpm "to see what its like" completely misses the point.

    My 950 is grunty, tractable, real world fast and a joy to ride everywhere.

    If I want to go stupid fast, all top end acceleration, mental brakes, knee scraping corners etc, I'd get an R for sure.

    Only it would be an R1 to go along side the 950.

    Personaly I dont need or want 150hp on an Adventure bike.

    Each to thier own I suppose.
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  16. Audun

    Audun Adventurer

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    Hi

    Have lurked for some time but now I'm in and might as well give something back to the inmates. A non orange coloured review.

    Coming from a R1 and a tuned RG500 I'm not the average GS tourer type. Put a lot of long touring in Europe on the R1 until som bastard stole it. Wanted to expand my touring to gravel so I went for the 1190 T after reading and testing.
    I have to agree with most reviews so far, and here is my summary after only 500km.

    Bad:
    - screen noise
    - seat (my R1 gave me less numb ass...)
    - sidestand (hope they fired the responsible)
    - delivery time of extras....


    All the bads are easy to fix or live with in my opinion. I should really not comment on suspension yet, but coming from R1 it is not hard for asphalt roads. The reviewers that claims racing bike handling on asphalt is wrong. It is fast, but will newer corner like an racing bike, but that is not the point either.
    I have not been on grawel yet and would anyhow not be the correct person to comment on that.

    The good:
    - power (if correct setting)
    - gearbox ( should have had 7 gears though, given the large useable speed range)
    - clutch
    - brakes
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    Coming from an carbed inline four I am a little surprised about the good reviews on low rpm performance. To me it feels rough when running at very low speeds which can be challenging when doing slow turns. I guess the comparision in the reviews is done with other twins, 990 in particular. A little dissapointed that it doesn't perform better that an 12 year old carbed four in this respect.

    A friend of mine bought the new GS. I didn't want a GS as the main selection criteria of min has always been the fun factor. A motorcycle is not a tool, so it need not be perfect. I still own a RG500, which has so many flaws it is unbeliveable. I will newer sell it though, as no other bike can compare on the fun factor. I hope the 1190 will get the same spot in my heart :)

    This summer I will tour the alps again for three weeks, half of that with pillion. Can probably give much more feedback then. Now I need to run it in properly.

    Audun
  17. PPiA

    PPiA Pete

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    Bails, currently using a Sporty as an adventure bike :wink:

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    Neither of the bikes are really fast, but they don't need to be. Either will take me to the speeds that will lose my license and bike for life.

    I rode the KTM twice. The first time the dealer lent me a helmet. The buffeting was so bad from the screen it felt like someone tapping on my helmet and I looked to kill them.
    Two days later I tried it again with my own helmet. WAY better. I'd still change the screen, but it's just a nuisance noise.

    I like shaft drives. I like belts. I like chains when they are new. I hate paying for new chains and sprockets.
    F.ck you KTM.

    BMW comes with Navigation bracket and trickery ready to attach their system.
    I don't want it. I use the map in my phone if I need to.
    I don't want to be forced to pay for this thing, and I certainly don't want to have to pay again to have it removed. It also blocks my view to the gauges.
    F.ck you BMW.

    Cruise control. Bag me if you will, but I visit my Mum in Albury and have to ride the Doom (Hume). Those that do, know the amount of police on it. I spend more time watching the speedo on that ride than the road. Hate it.
    Cruise control is good.
    Thank you BMW.

    The KTM R should be better off road due to the 21 front wheel. I like going off road with a 21" front wheel.
    Thank you KTM.

    However, I can fit a 21" front wheel to the BMW and I can throw the navigator bracket thingy through the dealers window, but I can't fit a shaft drive to a KTM.

    I'm choosing the BMW.
  18. KTM Pilot

    KTM Pilot Been here awhile

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    Nope - just set it to 'Sport' - It did feel 'held back' in some way. I look forward to the next ride.

  19. nikoktm

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    I did a short ride today and as Pebble mentioned I switch the electronics off for first time.. Scary! Fast & furious :lol3:lol3:lol3
  20. nikoktm

    nikoktm Been here awhile

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    Not sure if it is normal, but I realised today when I turned the switch "on" without starting the bike, that it has a continued noise.. I'm assuming it is the electronic water pump.. Does that turn off eventually if you leave the switch open?
    Mine doesn't do it! :hmmmmm