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Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much HP' started by goodcat8, Apr 23, 2012.
i couldnt find anything referring to the 1190 either.
edit: dammnit, i got ninjaed!
Wow. What a surprise the bike looks nothing like the test mule. I for one like it and it's on my to ride list when it's available. That screen with it's rake n gap will sort the bobble effect no doubt. Bring it on !!!
Looks like a damn nice "multistrada" kind of bike. 150 hp!!! Somehow can't see it on gnarly off-road. Very nice just the same. Will shred on the street.
Is "anti-hopping-kupplung" a slipper clutch? And "doppelzundung" .... double-spark (two plugs per cylinder)?
I was thinking the same thing with the slipper clutch
Yup..doppelzundung ....= 2 plugs
Anti hopping kupplung....= slipper
What am I seeing for the swingarm? Composites ? Or is that some kind of chain gaurd?
The rear footpeg bracket looks a little like composite too.
I wish KTM every sucess with this bike but I won't be buying one....maybe they'll make sooooo much cash from it the top brass will be able to give us what we really want...the mythiical 690 adv
Anyone else notice the change to the collector from the prototype photos? Much more ground clearance now - hopefully not the huge ugly exhaust we saw before.
Very nice...more hp gives the option for more torque which is usable hp that doesn't need high revs.
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Have KTM pulled that link? all it gives me is a link page for a KTM itunes app for the 2013 MX range.
The 2012 RC8R's engine has 127Nm torque, while the 990's LC8 engine has 100Nm. Because the new 1190ADV's engine is a derated RC8 engine, I guess we won't get that much more torque from it 10-15Nm maybe.. that's 10% more than the current 990's torque. Actually I remember reading 113Nm somewhere for the new ADV.
However people have to understand that KTM aims for a free reving engine (lc8, rc8 as well), that's why they minimalise all of the rotating mass inside the engine. So unlike a Harley, you have to rev these engines, that's how they are designed. It's not the < 3-4000 rpm band where these engines are mend to be operated in.
These KTM V2 engines always had and probably will have a characteristic more like an inline-4 than a traditional V-twin IMO - which is okay until one doesn't want to use it like a Harley V2 for example.
Also keep in mind, that the original LC8 engine was designed for mind blowing, 190kph Desert !!!racing!!! (Dakar), and not for 10-20mph trial like riding, also not for 60mph cruising in 6th. It's like using a 17k rpm F1 car and its engine like a normal car, and arguing about it's jerkiness at 60mph in 7th @ 1500rpm..
The RC8's engine was designed for racetrack usage, so I bet it won't be the optimal engine for 10-20mph trial like riding as well.
No matter how you smooth it out by derating the engine, the main characteristics will still remain IMO.
Torque to hp is simple calculation: 1kW = 1,341hp
Torque (N.m) = 9548.8 x Power (kW) / Speed (RPM)
Power (kW) = Torque (N.m) x Speed (RPM) / 9548.8
When KTM produces claimed 150hp @ 10000rpm it means 107Nm of torque at that rpm.
Because max torque is always produced at lower rpm, lets say at 7500rpm, then 127Nm @ 7500rpm means 133hp, which seams pretty logical to me.
But KTM will never be good for lugging at idle like BMW boxers anyway.
Yeah it appears they have! It was what you see posted in post #401 of this thread.
Not the first leak but I am interested in this bike! Might have to part with my 990 Supermoto R to get this bike.
Cool. I see it's got a Doppelzundung, WTFTI.
Hope they make it easier to work on.