2013 KTM Adventure 1190

Discussion in 'Ridiculous streetbikes with 6 CPUs and too much ho' started by goodcat8, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. TIGERRIDER007

    TIGERRIDER007 Long timer

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    Thanks for the info. I agree with you, this 1190 could be the ticket for me. The Super Tenere is a great bike from an "all-arounder" perspective and would be a no brainer for what my usage would be, but this 1190 might just add the grin factor that would be the deal maker. I like to canyon carve with some light off road exploration (right now), but I'm willing to try more off-roading. I'm here north of Atlanta, and typically ride up north to the Dragon, Cherohala, and other delightful roads, well, the Dragon is not delightful in all honesty. There is also some exploration potential near me too, which is what I seek.
    I have a friend who owns a couple KTMs and I trust his opinion on the quality of the bikes, of course his are dirt bikes so I don't know too much about their "street" bikes.
    I've been to many threads and seen some incredible pictures of the guys who own the 990s and 950s, this bike seems ideal for out west or southwestern US, even around the mid-west.
    I look forward to following this 1190 and learning about it.
    :D
  2. YOGOI

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    100 % Agree. Great post (from a noob :D).

    If you know what you want, and the bike has it, dont hesitate.
  3. sleepyOwl

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    I have never had too much interest with KTM and when, out of curiosity, I had a look at the spy pics of the bike instantly dismissed it from my list of wannabe's.

    And yet I'm strangely drawn back to this thread and I have now COMPLETELY changed my opinion. It is now really growing on me.

    Given that new bikes usually look far better in full on eye contact rather than photographs, I think this is going to be a beaut.

    I can see me falling out with my MTS for this.

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  4. Aussijussi

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    If i had the means, i'd buy one in a flash. I've had the 06 990 since new, i ride less dirt now, the 1190 has an option on 19/17 wheels, which bank will i rob?:D
    Who cares about how it looks, i mean the 990 adv is no beauty either!
  5. Balsta

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    The "list price" on KTM homepage /Germany is 14,895 EUR including 19 % VAT. With the $/EUR exchange rate of today this means 1.30*14,895/1,19=16,272 $ excl. VAT.

    The real sales price with some bargain is less (also in Europe), say cut 10 %? => 0,9*16,272 => about 14,600$

    Then less the "always better" market situation in the US, say another 5 %? => 0,85*16,272 => 13,800 $

    Somebody with better "data base" of such percentages above?
    Why not compare with the 990? The percentages should not be far off.
  6. Balsta

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    Back in 1978 when undersigned turned 15, he got a 50 cc Zündapp German moped from his father. The intake was choked to assure max. 1 hp :puke1 due to Swedish regulations for youngsters riding without need of a driving licence. It was really popular to drill the intake from the awfully small couples of millimeters to some real centimeters, replace the carb and get 5 hp instead of only one. Imagine the smile on our faces :D and the thrilling risk of getting caught by the unforgiving BMW R100 riding highway police officers equipped with the small tool consisting of an about 6 mm steel ball and a thin steel wire. They passed it through the carb into the cylinder to get you busted. (No, it's not a joke, it's true. If you got busted more than once => one year delay in permission to get the latter automobile driving licence))

    And now it appears this issue repeats itself and we get a decompressed 1200 cc. What a disappointment! There is simply no such thing as enough power!!

    I guess it may be impossible to order the new adventurer with the "real and unchoked" motor with 175 hp due to KTM's and seller's legal responsibilities...and so forth.

    Anyway, do you think it would be technically easy? Simply bring over the motor and the control module? Or is the other electronics perhaps incompatible with the race bike's ECU?
  7. wilmar13

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    I would imagine it is so you can run crappy fuel... The RC8R has two modes:95Ron for 170 hp and 98 Ron for 175 hp... That is 91 and 93 for North Americans. Basically this is low premium or high premium... But no matter how far you retard timing of ignition and fuel, it would be tough to run regular gas at 13.5:1 comp ratio... Thus the reduction for the 1190 Adv I would guess. The rest of the missing power is probably valve lift and overlap reductions.., none of this can be easily remedied unfortunately, at least with a drill bit or a tune. :D

    Trust me, you couldn't use the missing power in this bike anyway... It is too tall without sufficient front weight bias.
  8. Balsta

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    I was thinking about lovely power wheelies in 100 mph on 4th...and maybe 5th too....
  9. wilmar13

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    :D

    Well you will need to gear it down and you will have no worries I bet. 100mph power wheelies happen in 3rd with the full power engine despite tank humping ergos and being tucked over front wheel.. :evil
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    Sorry didn´t get around this one. Nope Denmark have one of the highest tax in the world. Strangely enough we all ways get the "most happy country in world". Regarding tax MC and cars are 180%.

    When the orange crush get settled with this new big baby in a couple of years and it get accepted by the John Rambo crowd. I think with some new fiberglass front and suspension it will be an evil bike. And again at that time the forenamed Rambo crowd will drool over the new machine from austria to battle the 7-800ccm crowd. :freaky
  12. Balsta

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    Colorado 6.7 % VAT
    Germany 19 %
    Sweden 25 %
    Denmark 180 %

    Can't you see it's simply directly related to the population density? Colorado may carry plenty more vehicles while Denmark would become an always still standing traffic jam if the VAT was at least religiously acceptable.
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    only the account is new , everything else is old and creaky :kurt
    shud'ave got my old one restarted, but forgot the relevant access details/email etc..
  15. Paulvt1

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    I'm another Super Ten owner who has this bike on his radar. Looking forward to the test ride.
  16. YOGOI

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    :lol3
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    yeah definitely getting the R version ... and Giant Loop no hard luggage
  18. umitc

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    Finally I have seen them in the exhibition. The adveture version had sockets connected on top of the forks; I guess that they are related to the electronic suspension. :-)))
    I hope that they do something better looking at the real production; according to the info, they will start the production in february. I couldn't see where the radiator fan is located.
    Hope that it is at a better place. All at all, I liked the bike; I am hoping to buy one.
  19. nordicbiker

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    What the hack do you need 175hp for? Or 150?

    Yes, this again will be a nice bike (just like the 990 I sold three weeks ago) for long distance touring, but when the going gets rough, horsepower doesn't help, but low weight does! The new 1190 is still the lightest in it's class, ok, congratulations for KTM for that. But...

    Yesterday I was doing over 300km on forrest roads and tractor paths and ended up on a former railway track just before sunset. The path was almost totally overgrown with high grass and small bushes. Never ever would I have even thougt about getting in there with the 990, if I get stuck I will have a hell of a time to get it turned around. The 690 Enduro R I bought some three weeks ago is around 80kg lighter and I can easily manouver it! What a pleasure to ride this bike under difficult conditions, not once during those first 2000km I have done on it felt I ever unsave! And folks, almost 70hp is perfectly enough! :nod

    So yes, I also like the new 1190, but c'on, a really adventure bike is something else!

    And still the power battle between the big manufacturers continues. Hopefull one day one will realize that this is NOT what a lot of people want. We have seen something similar in the marktet of digital cameras, where the marketing people dictated to the engineers that folks only want more pixels. Then some small manufacturers realized that a lot of advanced users don't want that at all, and now we have some really nice cams on the market, like the Fuji X10! Hopefully the same thing happens soons for motorcycles. Building a 690 Adventure only requires three things: a real tough back frame for mounting luggage, a larger (front) tank and some fairing. Job done, sells like warm bread!
  20. Scutty

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    Let me correct that for you:

    "Hopefully one day one will realize that this is NOT what a lot of people on ADVRider want"

    Because if you ride around Europe or look at worldwide sales figures, what KTM have made with the 1190 is exactly what a LOT of people want.