2013 KTM Duke 390

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by DOUBLE-O G, Oct 25, 2012.

  1. cls

    cls Long timer

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    And I'm not trying to talk anyone out of the 390 or trying to compare the 390 to the 690. Just passing on my thoughts and experience. You are free to take it or leave it. After many, many bikes and miles, I have my particular take on things. "Categorizing" has its limitations. Pressing on.
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  2. DOUBLE-O G

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  3. Navin

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    Oh man! A trio of 44 HP KTM sporty singles with an Adv version and a faired sport replica? :clap

    Now I gotta put a year or two on this Ninja 300 and wait out the usual first and second year teething issues assuming they are NA bound.
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  4. Gryphon12

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    If KTM offers this Trio in the US, I'll have to have one of each! Seriously, I will buy at least one. When someone finally offers you one of your dream bikes, you don't stay on the sidelines.

    That said, I hope that KTM / Bajaj have the resources, and the that the economy improves enough, so that the bikes really come to the US.

    I hadn't heard about an Adventure option in the 390 class. Finally! Many of us have wanted a 350-450cc version of something (WRR, DR-Z, KLX, even a Versys or KLE) for years. You may have finally hooked me with a 390 ADV!

    As a side note, I'm confused on the Moto-3 "replica" offering. I also have a passion for small sport bikes that I can actually use on the street (hence my interest in the EX300R and CB-1/NC-27). I've read about the Moto-3 bike before, but it was never clear that it was a "replica".

    Then I have to ask, a "replica" of what"? The 125cc 2T GP bike class rules have now changed to 250cc 4T, but neither KTM or Yamaha (both rumored) have actually committed to the actual series. Since there are no bikes, how can there be copies? And if copies, why not high spec 250cc engines, rather than 373cc street engines? Now, I'm not complaining, I'm just curious - I'd like the 373cc option for the street "replica", but I'm usually in the small minority.

    Finally, I want to really use the bike on the street, not just at the track. Since I like fairings, I'd definitely take one over a 390 Duke - as long as the upper fairing allows me to raise the bars 2-3" vertically for street riding. Ducati, Triumph, Honda, etc. don't allow this amount of movement, and it severely limits their sales. Lots of folks like the bikes but not the ergonomics, and want to add LSL Superbike bars, etc. When they can't they quickly sell the bikes and take a big hit on depreciation.

    And let's face it, these are STREET bikes. The Ducati 848, 1098, 1198 are hopeless in this regard. When they raised the fairing clearance on the 749/999 from MY 2005 to 2006, sale went up, but then the new models came out with super-low fairing clearance for the bars again. I would have purchased a Daytona 675 years ago if the fairing had more clearance. It costs nothing for the manufacturer to incorporate on a street bike. It doesn't have to have race clip-ons to sell.

    Surprise, surprise, only the KTM RC8/8R have the ergos right (adjustable!). So, KTM, do it right again, and I'm all in, maybe for all three!
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  5. Navin

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    Knowing KTM, the 350 will be able to be produced as a 250 too, maybe this is the basis for their 250 race bike? Trellis frame and everything ready to go, just put it in a hot, tight dress. :evil
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  6. Gryphon12

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    I think that the Duke frame is too tall, and not strong enough for GP power. However, they could take all of the R&D time and money that they spent on the RC-4 several years ago (my real KTM dream bike - that never made it to production) and apply it to Moto-3.

    Edit: Ignore the above. I forgot - "Replica" - it doesn't need to handle GP power, just look the part. I'm still all-in!
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  7. Navin

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    What were the HP numbers they were shooting out when the class was proposed? I recall them being pretty high for a 250f, wasn't it like 55-60 HP???
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  8. Gryphon12

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    Yup. At the rear wheel. At some pretty high rpm, if I recall.
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  9. LoneWolfRides

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    The latest news about the Faired/ADV variants for the 390 is exciting new, but the wait for my next bike is agonizing.

    The ADV trim 390 would be perfect for my needs, but I have a feeling it would more 'Adventure Styled' than a hardcore ADV bike. Much like Honda's 500X.

    I'd love to pick up whichever of the 390ADV or 500X comes sooner to our shores. But heart is leaning towards the KTM, since most the current crop of sub-600 cc Honda's I've ridden lack character, they are too perfect! LoL!!
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  10. Cortez

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    +1

    Something like the old 640 ADV (re: looks) would be fun.

    I know most of you will want 18/21 wheels.. but I'd like 17/17 (SMT
    style bike) or 17/19..
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  11. Tachedoutoffroad

    Tachedoutoffroad Mr. Parrish

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    A modern 390cc ADV bike would be fukin awesome and would be a bike I'd actually buy new (no DRZ :deal)

    I'd think they really sell. The Honda 250s and WR250s are ok, but we are in 'Merica and want a some more wooopowww when were scooting around. 44hp is good to me :D
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  12. WAP

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  13. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    Naaah, too MotoGP..
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  14. Gryphon12

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    The top part of that fairing is a FAIL for the street! And those pegs are a loooong way back.

    A little more RC8/8R adjustabiity, please.
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  15. Navin

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    Dude, seriously? If that is the offering just STFU and run home with it before they come to their senses! :lol3

    I don't see a single piece of recycled tuna can on that bike. I can glance at my Ninja 300 and actually FEEL IT RUSTING under the cheap and flakey paint! I'd far prefer to "civilize" that beauty than upscale another Kawasaki "Yugo 300". :evil


    Reality will bring a totally different SS 390, if it ever hatches and comes stateside but man, I know what they do and it should be the nicest bike under 600cc for sport/street styled bikes. :freaky
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  16. JJGeo

    JJGeo Been here awhile

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    That's the point.
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  17. OConnor

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    Give me that with lights. :tb
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  18. pebble35

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    On the subject of a '390' street bike the following is a quote from a UK magazine interview last month with KTM CEO Stefan Pierer :

    'In one year KTM will have a Moto3 bike for the road. It looks totally the same as the race bike and it's named Moto3. First you will be able to get it with a 125cc or 200cc engine, but eventually with a 390cc engine delivering, I would say, 44 horsepower. At 138kg it's going to be fun, like riding was in the 1970's'
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  19. Gryphon12

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    Navin, I have a friend of a friend who is a master at working in Carbon Fiber - he builds and repairs body work on Porsche race cars.

    It should only cost $1,500 to $2,000 to fix the top of the Moto3 fairing to enable reasonable ergos for the street. Otherwise, it will be like a Ducati 1198 - built for the track and painful (hurt me more!) on the street.
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  20. ferrix

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    And if it is built in India it will be like riding in the 1970's in other ways as well.