2013 Lucas Oil Pro Motocross series

Discussion in 'Racing' started by nachtflug, Apr 11, 2013.

  1. ADK

    ADK master of the casual pace

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    Spoke too soon, track getting dusty in spots. RV wins again and Weston Peick (sp?) continues to impress.
  2. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    This track sucks.

    Bring back Binghamton. :freaky
  3. ADK

    ADK master of the casual pace

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    or Mexico, Ny. :freaky
  4. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    Big ole overwatered SX track.

    Spectators way back. Just no place for them.

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  5. No Degree

    No Degree Where's the decency?

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    Track not as bad as I thought it would be. Looking forward to Pulpmx podcasts and Monday night's Pulpmx show. Generally get some behind the scenes info that the TV network or Internet can't provide.
  6. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    I bet not one of the pros liked it.

    Well,maybe Weston Piek.
  7. b3h

    b3h ol dog on a stray

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    Can somebody spell out what's wrong with the track? All I got is Internet. Vids yesterday on racerx didn't look to bad, looked fast. Did all that dirt turn to shit or what. I'm not a big super cross track fan but at least it was outdoors.
  8. enduro Dan

    enduro Dan Sticks and Stones™..

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    Too fast.
    Blind jumps,dusty,different soil all over(not natural)
    Not much passing.

    This mixture may work indoors but its not working outdoors.

    These guys are going way to fast.
    Lets just hope someone doesn't get really f'd up.
  9. b3h

    b3h ol dog on a stray

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    Thanks for that. I like fast but not to the point where somebody is gonna get f'd up bad in a get off. Saw some pretty hard crashes last weekend at Unadilla, when it takes minutes to get up and back on the bike its not good. Everybody was sayin how smooth Tomac was last week but I swear that guy was on the verge of crashin at any given moment along with alot of other riders with the speed they were movin. I don't really wanna jump on the trash Utahs track bandwagon but these guys are pros and can provide us with some good racin if they r not injured or dead. It aint about the money, but I dont have a dog in the fight, just the $40 spectator entry fee.
  10. Fajita Dave

    Fajita Dave Been here awhile

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    Yeah the dirt really sucked in my opinion. I liked the high speed layout but that dusty crap they had for dirt isn't up to the task of handling it. High speed and off-road is still dangerous mix no matter what.

    If you're going to have big jumps you've gotta have some air time and wow factor. All of the big jumps were uphill and just didn't have it. I'm wondering if they designed it that way to help tame the crazy power modern 450s make. The general view from TV made everything the riders were doing seem so small and slow. Probably would have been more fun to watch in person depending on the seats.

    It was built on flat ground but I don't think that's much of an excuse. The practice track at Englishtown, NJ was built on flat ground and it was a blast to ride. Good dirt and varied terrain / obstacles is all it took to make a decent MX track. It was a good mix of high speed, mid speed and low speed sections with varying sized jumps.

    I thought the racing was decent though. There were some pretty sweet passes made.
  11. Racer111v

    Racer111v Long timer

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    It was better than I thought it would be, but I would not have any interest seeing it live. It worked pretty well for TV. With all the tracks available in this country, this track just isn't necessary. I would rather see them run the Daytona supercross track any day..................
  12. ADK

    ADK master of the casual pace

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    I bet ET and RV loved the track.
  13. pbarmy

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    No more Steel City for that!Not a tree in sight.:puke1
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    Racer111v Long timer

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    I agree.. Not a bad seat in the house. I only got there once, and it was 100*. That is a great example of what MX is.
  15. davethegoat

    davethegoat bahhh....bah...

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    Congrats to the series champs, Tomac and Villapoto :clap
  16. IgoFar

    IgoFar Been here awhile

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    I watched the first motos, and the track looked better on tv than I thought it would, actually, it looked pretty good. But to me, the thing that really stuck out was, there were no spectators along the edges of the track. They were all way off in distant grand stands. To me , part of what makes motocross great is being able to stand along the fences and being right on top of the action were the riders can actually see and hear you cheering them on.

    Me, I'm hopelessly old school, but I was open minded going into this round. But after watching the first motos, I have to say that I was not swayed in favor of this new track. I just don't see were it has a place on the national circuit. It just isn't compatable with what I think is the spirit of motocross, and to me, that is racing over natural terrain. There are too many real motocross tracks around the country that would love to have a date on the schedule, to have to put this collection of dirt piles together and calling it a motocross track. It would be much more at home on the SX circuit.
  17. IgoFar

    IgoFar Been here awhile

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    Weston Piek. Someone needs to step up and give this guy a shot. He's pretty impressive.
  18. No Degree

    No Degree Where's the decency?

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    Peick is the man! Looking forward to next week to see if he still has the mojo.
  19. mknight

    mknight Been here awhile

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    I was there all day....from the first practice to the end of the the last moto. I have no idea what it looked like on TV, but I'll be honest, it was pretty darn cool.

    Yes, like with all things, there could be some improvements, but in person, this thing was absolutely NO supercross track like so many people were saying before seeing it. It was big, long, and a suprising amount of elevation changes (relatively speaking) for what I was originally thinking. They hauled in a ridiculous amount of dirt and had some big "dragon's backs", off-cambers, huge step-ups, etc.

    As for the spectating, I'm still covered in dirt. TV cameras probably didn't show it, but there were plenty of spots where you could get very close to the action if you wanted. Yes, I admit....not as close as you can at other outdoor national tracks and that is kind of a shame. Because it was built on the infield of the car racing track, there were a lot of barriers. But, in fairness, you could get close to the action if you moved around.....but still not as much as I would have liked. They needed some tunnels or something to get spectators on the interior of the track in some places.

    As for the dirt......all of the dirt in that valley (which is actually about 30 miles west of Salt Lake City) is what I like to call moon dirt. It's horrible and poofy. But.....they used that for the foundation of the track and then they brought in loads and loads of mulchy stuff for the top, and then they had hydro-seeded all the sides of the jumps. Honestly, it was waaaay better than I thought. When I saw videos of the track from a few months ago, I thought this thing was going to be a horrible dusty mess.

    It could have been better. They needed more water trucks. But the thing that probably didn't come across in TV is that there were large thunderstorms all around the entire valley and at the times the wind was really blowing so it was drying it out horribly.....and the areas outside of the track that were that "moon dirt" I was referring to, were kicking up lots of dust.

    It wasn't perfect, but it was tons of fun, and definitely better than what I had seen and read about before I got there. I'll have to watch the TV Broadcast to see it from an "outsiders" perspective, but for someone who was there in person, it was a great event and I was pleasantly surprised at the track.

    Congrats to Villo and Tomac on the wins. They were on another level today (although the best racing by far was in the 250 class....especially between Baggett and Roczen).

    Here are a few photos I took today:

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  20. Shawnee Bill

    Shawnee Bill Long timer

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    Sounds good. Actually the more I watched on TV the more I was thinking it was like you describe rather than my first impressions. I really would like it to be a good track, I love riding to Utah and it sounds like it may be worth it, especially if they make good use of the time they have to make some improvements in the spectating area for next year.

    Were they allowing camping at the track? Or would it be a decent place to camp? Looked like it was open desert.

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