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Discussion in 'Racing' started by AngryShawn, Jan 30, 2013.
Is there new course or is it the same old stuff?
Looks like some OLD stuff !!! but New to the SF 250 and a little new to me
should be fun!!
Old stuff, but not the same as what SCORE had been stuck on using over and over for the 250 in a while. SCORE hasn't gone north of HWY 3 for the 250 in some time, but those parts have been used in the 500 & 1000 before making them "old stuff" I guess. There isn't much on Northern Baja that can be raced on that hasn't been used before.
The plot thickens!!!!!! I told you guys the Roger Norman buy out might not be a good thing:
As part of the agreement made between SCORE, HDRA and Amber Racing Services, which includes the $25,000 provided by ARS toward the total bonus-point prize purse for the inaugural World Championship of Desert Racing, all fuel purchases to race in SCORE and HDRA races must be made exclusively through the ARS company. Sunoco or any other fuels not purchased from ARS through the SCORE website will not be allowed in vehicles competing in the MasterCraft Safety Tecate SCORE San Felipe 250 race
Wow! If you don't buy your fuel from SCORE's sponsor / vender you can't race!!!! WHAT THE FUCK???????
You can't even race with PEMEX!!!!
Talk about poor timing!
See here for more discussion on the topic: http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php/110676-SCORE-Fuel-Mandate
And by the way, the sky is not falling, yet
ATTENTION ALL SAN FELIPE 250 RACERS. HERE ARE THE BAJA PIT LOCATIONS FOR SAN FELIPE: BAJA PIT #1 @ RM 38, BAJA PIT # 2 @ RM 90.4, BAJA PIT # 3 @ 144, BAJA PIT # 4 @ RM 182, BAJA PIT # 5 @ RM 223. WE ARE WORKING ON THE BAJA PITS RACE MAP. IT WILL BE DONE ON 2/27/13. BAJA PITS FREE PRE-RUN PIT AGAIN THIS FRIDAY THRU RACE DAY AT RACE MILE 90.4.
That whole race gas thing is a bitch especially for bikes... they should be excluded
I might have to go pre-run this next week. I should be crossing into baja sunday morning. Maybe i'll ride it monday...
I think I'm going to give this a try, but I have a couple questions:
1) Is it going to be disruptive to the real competitors if I take a couple tourists out on the course on Monday the 4th? If we're going to be in the way, I want to skip it.
2) Can anyone identify the "more interesting" segments? We're departing from Rancho Sky Mike in the AM and expecting to be at Alfonsina's that night, so we can't do the whole thing... Is there a particular fun 150mi segment that has truck access at either end?
EDIT: Looking at the map, it looks like it would be pretty easy to do mile 10 - 142 or 142 to the finish. Any suggestions on which is more fun?
When pre-running, everyone is a tourist, just watch out for the yahoos who think its race day
Northern section looks more interesting, but I'd defer to the more experienced baja riders to give an accurate assessment.
I would expect a rough track, deep silt, and A LOT of whoops. If your "tourists" are novice (or better) dirt guys on mx bikes that are prepped well, I think they will be fine. If they are dual-sport guys on KLR, DRZ, ect. on 50/50 dot tires and tubes it will likely turn into a multi-day torture-fest. YMMV
I can't say with certainty that what I'm seeing on the map is stuff that I have personally been on, but I have been on a decent amount of terrain in that area and I don't remember any of it being easy (except for the lake bed).
Don't think that because its "only" 250 miles that it is easy. The whoops will take their toll on both body and equipment. Don't like sand whoops, that's ok there are rocky whoops, don't like rocky whoops, we got rocky sand whoops for you.
Truck access to this course is good. Try to talk a 4 wheel team into letting you see their BFG book, it has all the info you could ever want about the course and local areas.
Thanks guys, we're going to give it a try. Just to be conservative, I think we'll try start at RM 144, since that leads into the lake, which as you guys said, isn't technical and then if anyone is feeling over-matched, we can take the sportsman cut off at RM 185 and rejoin at RM 235.
If you haven't already, look at the course notes from SCORE:
http://score-international.com/gps/13SF250 SCORE Race Course Notes 021113 jd.xls
If they are going to note 'giant whoops' @ 203.68 you know they've got to be monsters :eek1
DO NOT RIDE ON THE RACE COURSE ON RACE DAY!!!!!!!!
Besides the super soft stuff before you get to the dry lake, if you try to get down Morelia road you will be on the race course. You do not want to be riding on the race course from around race mile 148 all the way down to race mile 185. And once you do get down that far the only way back out is to go backwards on the race course unless you wish to continue south on the race course and go out one of more technical washes in all of Baja.
You would be much better off watching near Borrego where north of the Hwy has more technical stuff to watch. I would then go down below San Flippy on the old Puertecitos road (dirt) and work your way over to the race course as it runs along the base of the mountains.
Apparently Roger Norman has back peddled on the gas issue with the threat of several big name teams (including one who is a title sponsor) pulling out of SCORE for good. They have also decided that the sportsman bike will not be doing the northern shortcut, only the southern one. WAFJ.
Easy, buddy. I'm talking about Monday the 4th, not race day. I'm not new.
Care to share your source?
gps files on the SCORE site were updated yesterday and still show both sportsman bypasses...
they mentioned it last night on DirtLive.
aha, couldn't catch the show last night, thanks...
now lets see if they actually update the website
You'll get more information off of Roger's fuck'n face book than from the SCORE site. Real professional stuff there.