2013 Suzuki SFV650 - the Gladius returns & renamed

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by eakins, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. Cat0020

    Cat0020 El cheapo

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    You said it yourself.. why would anyone spend more money to buy a 2nd gen that wouldn't get you more performance? :clap :lol3
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  2. OConnor

    OConnor Bad juju

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    Everything I've heard points to the Gen1 frame being stronger, as well as the crank and con rods. That's why they make a better base for the Superbike class. As well as having carbs you can replace with flat-slides.
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  3. ShardPhoenix

    ShardPhoenix Наглый ублюдок

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    I just spent a few minutes looking at pictures of the SV650 and the Gladius. Pretty easy to pick out the styling differences between the two, but I'm just not seeing what makes the Gladius significantly uglier in appearance than the SV. Well, the headlight is a little silly, but overall...

    They both look kind of like insects (but not nearly as much as the Versys, which I find to be a despicably ugly machine), but I really can't say I favor the SV over the Gladius or vise verse. Even had my wife come look at the photos I was looking at and she had close to the same comments, though she thought the Gladius was more appealing overall.


    If I were to be presented with both bikes and told that I could pick one to keep... I'd probably wind up having to do a chant that contains "grab a tiger by the toe".
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  4. TrashCan

    TrashCan Scary Jerry

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    They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    I make just about any bike look good. :lol3

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    Just a fun bike in its element. :thumb
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  5. dmac57

    dmac57 Long timer

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    Shoot! Got that all over my shoes.

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  6. NONo443

    NONo443 Been here awhile

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    The first generation had a drain for the front cylinder's spark plug well.

    I will agree with you on the most part of everything else, especially that generation having EFI; which is kind of why I like the SFV650/Gladius, it seems like the best of both worlds in a weird way.
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  7. mtntrails

    mtntrails Life is Short...

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    Bump...

    No posts since October??

    Anybody buy one of these? Any 2009-2010 Gladius owners?

    Even with the over styled headlight and kinda steep MSRP, I would have thought there would be more love for this bike. The all black 2013 model looks pretty good to me (just don't call it a Gladius).
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  8. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1

    While there's a bunch of SV650's here, and people used to buy them new
    very often, I've never seen a Gladius in person on our roads, and I travel
    A LOT.

    It just costs too much.
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  9. mtntrails

    mtntrails Life is Short...

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    Now that you mention it, I can't remember ever seeing one on the road either.
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  10. Toto

    Toto Been here awhile

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    I have seen only one up here in Canuckistan.
    Do not sell well at all ...maybe has something to do with "alternate lifestyle" colour theme.
    I was at the bike show and they had a black one there.
    Looked WAY better then the other colours.
    I actually think it would make a pretty decent, easy riding mid displacement bike.
    I had a Wee...not the best looking bike by a long shot:eek1:lol3...but an excellent bike with a GREAT motor.
    I think I would take a Gladius over the Honda 700 NC series any day of the week.
    There are lots of riders that value forum over function...I get that.
    For me and others, a bike is just a tool for the adventure.
    Hell, if I was vacationing on a nice Caribean island I'd rather putt around on a moped or scoot then my CBF1000.
    Once again, I think the Gladias would make an excellent mid range all rounder.

    I DO like that Guzzi 7 though:wink::lol3
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  11. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1 and the Gladius is probably a better bike then the Guzzi in every way,
    and most would still get the Guzzi.
    :lol3

    Problem for the Gladius here was the Bandit 650 naked which was
    1) more power (and some people don't look beyond that number)
    2) 25% less money

    People who wanted a twin went for the ER6n or 650R, and the ones
    who had money for a Gladius, bought a Monster 696 which costs only
    slightly more.

    Gladius is around $11.000 (US) here, and the Monster is $12.300.

    If you can get up to $11k, you can do $12k too, and Gladius is an
    obvious 696 copy. Sure, it's completely different riding experience,
    but..

    ER6n is under $9k.
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  12. ZZ-R Rider

    ZZ-R Rider Captain Fantastic

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    Around my city, the Gladius is not that uncommon ... the roads aren't crawling with 'em or anything, but I do see 'em around fairly regularly ... a guy I know bought one for his G.F. & lowered it for her ... am anxious to get a close-up look at that (& maybe a test-sit) ... in the parking lot of our local Kawi dealership last summer i saw a beautiful black/white 2-tone Gladius ... mostly black with white accents ... actually looked great!

    Have noticed too that on the local used market, low mileage, late model Gladi-eye are going for very affordable prices ... cheaper than a compairable 650R for instance ...

    BTW, I once borrowed a pals '88 NT650 Hawk for a Ride ... loved it ... how would the Gladius compare?
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  13. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    It would probably be better in every way.
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  14. ZZ-R Rider

    ZZ-R Rider Captain Fantastic

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    Hmmm ... interesting ... have not yet had the opportunity to Ride a Gladius ... think I'll make that a mission come Spring!

    Just browsing a few pics and the on recollection, the black/white 2-tone SFV I saw last summer was probably white with black accents and not the other way round ...

    Now this one with a conventional round headlight would be dead sexy!!

    [​IMG]

    Also, would lowering a Gladius be a fairly straight forward affair?
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  15. Cortez

    Cortez BAZINGA!

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    +1 for the headlight.

    ..but this might be the reason for not doing it:

    [​IMG]

    They'd have 2 virtually same bikes (to someone who doesn't know much
    about them).
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  16. mtntrails

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    Low mileage naked SV650s are getting pretty hard to find these days.
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  17. Tim_Tom

    Tim_Tom Been here awhile

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    Yeah that retro paint scheme looks awesome! Actually I kinda think the Gladius looks good, as long as the frame and body are not painted a silly color.

    I was very keen to sit on one at the NYC Bike show, as we haven't had it here since 2009. And I've never seen on in the wild... From what I understand the 2013's do offer a bit of a performance gain over the 2nd gen SV. The motor is revised on the inside. Twin Iridium plugs per cylinder, and fuel injectors lifted from the GSXR. Also has a new valve train with lighter components, and a few other tweaks. The engine should be just fine.

    I really liked the look of the bike in person. They had it in a flat black, and while it wasn't as attention grabbing as the white / black two tone, it did look nice. Seat height felt perfect. Weight felt perfect to me. The instrumentation is good, bars and controls felt awesome.

    The only miss for me is that bulky and overstyled exhaust, but that's what an aftermarket Yosh slip on is for.

    Plus the US price is pretty damn good. At $7999 it is certainly a very tempting option. Definitely on the test ride list for this spring.
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  18. GoonerYoda

    GoonerYoda Hot Dickens Cider

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    I had an 2007 SV650 for a couple of years. It was my first bike. But if I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't have picked it. I would have picked the Street Triple or a Bonneville. But that's just me.
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  19. powderhound

    powderhound Been here awhile

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    Aside from the fact it looks horrible, the suspension doesn't seem improved any, I don't know, the original is still the best. No plans to sell my 2nd gen SV650N. Although, there are alot of SV's popping up for sale locally, gixxer-mania seems to be the driver for it with spring coming up.

    A well sorted (with suspension/brake upgrades) SV650 is still a hoot to ride in the mountains and commute time.
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  20. inroads

    inroads Wimberley,Texas

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    Glad to see they're bringing back the SFV after a 3 year hiatus.2009 Gladius is my 3rd SV motor (99/V-strom)and I am amazed how much more responsive it is than the previous 2 generations.
    All that updated FI/twin spark on the 2013 was available on the 2009.It is a copied 696 Ducati done right.
    They faired in the radiator much smoother where the 2nd gen. just stuck way out and was ugly.
    What's not to like about a steel trellis frame? plastic removed and its beautiful even in '09 blue.
    With Suzuki's available micro windsscreen it blends in the headlight nicely.And hey I dig the Gear Indicator,very useful on a 6-speed tranny.3rd time is a charm for me.
    I am just a $50 GSXR ebay shock and some fork springs away to getting the suspension right.
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