2013 Trip - Buy, rent, or ship?

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  1. Discojon75

    Discojon75 Been here awhile

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    Should I buy, rent, or have a bike shipped over? I'm looking at about 2 weeks of riding, with one or two days on either side for processing.

    Thinking Poland to Finland via Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania, and maybe St Petersburg...
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  2. MichaelJ

    MichaelJ Long timer

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    Two weeks? Rent.

    Show up, sign the papers, and you're off.

    Shipping your bike over and back will cost more than the rental.

    Buying and registering a bike over there is usually just about impossible unless you live in the country.
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    +1
    Michael is correct: for 2 weeks, rent.
    You'll find many rental sources in Germany, perhaps even Warsaw,
    http://www.rental-motorcycle.com/europe/poland/warsaw_rental.html
    but
    you'll need to confirm in advance rental agent's willingness to
    allow bike to FIN via Baltic;
    and
    vehicle rental to RU/ St Petersburg unlikely + US citizens need visa to RU

    good luck
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  4. Skander

    Skander I LOVE MY RT

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    Defiantly Rent, last year I shipped my RT to Europe from the Middle East and I paid a fortune for boxing, shipping (round trip), insurance, clearing and all that paper work, it cost me about 2000 Euros.
    Today you can rent a GS for about 110 Euro / day, you still have to keep a deposit of about 2000 Euro but that is refundable if you return the bike undamaged.
    2000/110=18 days rental
    I am renting this summer and RT for about 120 Euro / day for 2 weeks, and will cost me less than 2000 Euros
    Have a great trip and best of luck,
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  5. randel

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    Why should rental company not allow driving through Baltic? It's all EU and Schengen.
    Much bigger (or expensive) issue may be not returning bike to original location (renting from Poland, returning bike in Finland?)
    It may be much easier to plan a round trip then. One rental company in Estonia:.http://www.renditsikkel.ee/en/
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  6. CourtFisher

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    Agreed. FIN via Baltic is all EU/ Schengen. But commercial rental agencies
    are sometimes limited by their insurance underwriters, or impose surcharges
    for full coverage beyond certain geo limits. It just pays to ask/ confirm.

    Yes. One-way PL-->FIN would be impossible/ not available, or horribly expensive to pay return trucking.
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  7. MichaelJ

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    These are the people who REALLY run the world :eek1
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  8. jetjackson

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    +1 on rent.

    Friends of mine are coming over to meet in Amsterdam, then they are hiring a car and I am going to follow them on the bike through Poland, Germany, Czech Republic, Hungary, Austria.

    The rental company is telling them they are not covered for Czech and Hungary as they are 'eastern' states and a higher risk. So given that, I wouldn't be surprised if they got funny about the Baltics. So they needto pay to get insured for those other states. (This is comprehensive btw, we know 3rd party is automatic across all EU states)
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  9. Discojon75

    Discojon75 Been here awhile

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    Ok, I think I'm going to modify my plan for Berlin to Poland to Lithuania and back. Sounds like rental is definitely the way to go.
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  11. Paulius1

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    Hi, if you like, you can rent my bmw 1150RT. Details PM.
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  12. nordicbiker

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    Two weeks?

    Germany > Poland > Baltic States > Finland and ferry back to Germany should be possible. Or take night ferry Helsinki - Stockholm and after another two days in Sweden night ferry back to Germany!

    But there is still the problem if the rental company allows you taking the bike to the baltic states. Some rental companies like e g http://www.roewer-motorrad.de/motorrad-vermietung.html request that you make a special arrangement with them (possibly additional insurance fee) in ANY case the bike leaves Germany, regardless which direction!

    You should also check your selfrisk in the insurance policy, it will be up to 1500...2000€ for any damage you cause!
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  13. insureguy

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    Presuming you haven't left yet......I shipped to Germany for a 17 day trip. Renting didn't work because we wanted to go to Eastern Europe and Russia. Many Rentals aren't allowed in E Europe and none in Russia. Total cost about $2500 round trip plus insurance. Was well worth it, but I agree renting would make sense if you don't go to forbidden countries. We left Bremerhaven-Berlin-Prague-Vienna-Budapest-Krakow-Bialystok-Rezekne-Moscow-StPete-Helsinkie (Ferry to Stockholm)-Copenhagen-Bremen.

    Total blast, and couldn't have done it on a rental. We spent multiple nights in Prague, Moscw and StPete. Two weeks is very doable depending on your agenda.
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  14. Pecha72

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    Just out of interest: how much was the shipping? And I assume you had to do it both ways then?
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  15. insureguy

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    Pecha72, it ran about $1200 each way including ship fee about $900 to Wilenius Whilhelmson and port and agent fees about $300. It was actually cheaper having my own bike than renting; though I was without the bike about 2 weeks each way.
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  16. Ken Fritz

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    Shipping from the east coast it may only 2 weeks, but from the west coast or inland, it's a lot more - like twice as long each way. That's 2 mos. without your bike while it's in transit. That makes renting more viable.
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  17. Pecha72

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    If time is short, then you have the option to send by air, too. That doesn´t take long. But there are many variables involved in every shipping, so it´s hard to say exactly, what it is gonna cost you (unless you use the readymade services offered by some companies, but they´re usually on the expensive side, though they naturally make the whole process easy for you).

    Generally I´d say by air is better, if the distance is relatively short (across the Atlantic is not very short, but it´s not very long either like, say, US east coast to Australia would be). And by air is usually more straightforward and faster to clear the vehicle at the destination. Seaports can be a pain, as they handle a huge volume of freight, and they do not necessarily load your bike into the ship last, or pick it up first after arrival. Loading and unloading a whole cargo ship can take a long time.

    Also when there are delays, which can always happen, when you send by sea, it easily means days or weeks of extra waiting. By air, possible delays are normally only a few hours, or maximum few days (which is actually rare, when using airfreight).
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  18. IanJ

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    +1 on renting for a 2 week trip. I'm looking to do the same thing for a 5 week trip, and will most likely be buying a bike via fellow inmate Wheatwhacker. For a 2 week trip, I would definitely rent. I'd actually love to ship my bike there and back, but from Seattle, the charges are just too high. I think 3-4 weeks is the break-even point for renting vs. buying and selling.
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