2013 Triumph Trophy

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Worroll, Jun 26, 2012.

  1. Emperor Norton

    Emperor Norton Kilroy was here

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    There is a distinct difference between similarities and "Desgin via Xerox". IMO Triumph with this is far more "Design via Xerox" than similarities. I applaud any manufacturer that can realize the "oh hey people want this lets make it" bits, but at the same time when at first blush from most angles your bike looks near identical to another MFGs, you have serious serious wannabe/me too! issues. Ride your own ride, further design your own F'ing bike.
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  2. EetsOK

    EetsOK Been here awhile

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    I don't see it. Other than the colour and the type of bike (sport touring) I don't see any other similarites.
    The wheels, the seat, the tank, the windshield and the bags are in the same spot and my question would be: Where else would you want Triumph to put them?
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  3. DAKEZ

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  4. joef

    joef Been here awhile

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    Imitation is the highest form of flattery they say, Triumph did a good job with this one I would buy it before I would buy the BMW
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  5. charliebrown

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    I can see the similarities between the new Trophy and RT, but frankly, I don't care, and I OWN an '09 RT. People want to criticize Triumph for developing another copy/clone of BMW, but I think it's more of addressing the needs of that particular motorcycle niche. A dual sport from Honda will look similar to a dual sport from Suzuki. A sport bike from Kawasaki will look like a sport bike from pretty much every other manufacturer (ok, maybe not Ducati). This is not a bad thing, it's just what works.

    I previously owned a BMW K1200GT but traded it in on my RT, but not until after looking long and hard at the offerings from Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki. The RT had the best ergonomics of them all, BY FAR. And while I loved the inline 4 of the GT, comfort, long distance ride-ability, and leg room of the RT trumped the engine of the GT, because without the better ergonomics, the bike wouldn't get ridden.

    When I was picking up my RT, i casually mentioned to the salesman that if BMW offered the GT engine in the RT frame, I would be first in line. He mentioned that he had heard that from several people that were moving over from the GT to the RT. So BMW releases the K16 and Triumph announces the Trophy. Apparently Triumph was eavesdropping.

    I certainly don't have the sales numbers to back this up, but from what I understand, the RT is a terrific seller for BMW. Triumph could do a lot worse than targeting those buyers. As for me, I have been anticipating the Trophy ever since it was rumored back in the end of 2010 and am looking forward to the motorcycle shows this winter where I can see one in person. I think Triumph might have nailed another one.
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  6. njd

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    How completely unimaginative of a design.
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  7. Tom Herold

    Tom Herold Ugh...

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    Rant ON!

    Nothing personal, but... DAMN! This is a prime example of what I love to hate about forums.... I've been here for over 6 years and only have 50ish posts for a reason....

    Triumph re-enters the sport touring arena after seeing what the successful brands are doing, takes the common pieces and approaches that have proven to work, then does what it can to personalize it and the haters come out of the woodwork.

    No single bike is perfect for the masses right out of the box; not one. Sorry all you BMW studs, this applies to you too....

    Every single one of us personalize our machines regardless of the effort the manufacturer puts into making it as well rounded as possible. I dare say there's not one of us who've added or changed at least one thing on our machines throughout our riding history's - that's what's so great about riding; we make the machine fit our needs/wants/desires so we can enjoy the ride longer and more frequently.

    I won't bore you so called "experts" on the theory of SportTouring with my personal thoughts on this new machine, but will certainly say this:

    Don't like the new Trophy? Spare the rest of us who've been waiting on Triumph to get back into the game your attitudes and BS dribble, and go over to the Harley bashing thread and bag on pirates to show your hatred for all that's not what you want it to be. I'll wait for you there since I'm a Triumph and Harley guy so we can poke fun at the wanna be's.

    Rant OFF!

    Move along ladies and gentlemen, there's nothing to see here. Back to your regularly scheduled programs..... :D
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  8. njd

    njd Long timer

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    You're right, we should all collectively have one opinion, preferably yours.
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  9. Tom Herold

    Tom Herold Ugh...

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    Not at all, but I can see where you're coming from and appriciate the fact you're entitled to express yourself.

    But to dog out other peoples choice in a ride or what they personlly find appealing is quite contrary to the "community" feel of this forum - matter of fact, you can meet me over at IM so we can chat this up and square it away without further hijacking this thread. I'll look forward to it.
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  10. Bueller

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    Actually, it's exactly what this forum is all about :lol3
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  11. doggrell3000

    doggrell3000 Been here awhile

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    dear forum

    i think mr herold is correct . who cares if it resembles the bmw rt . there are still noticeable design differences between the bmw rt and the trophy . i have not ridden either bike ( yet ) but from the specs and pictures i would choose the trophy over the bmw . i am quite disappointed that the trophy does not come in black . come to think of it -- neither does the bmw rt . triumph should offer a special order black paint job for the 2013 trophy for a reasonable price . i will pay for this option . ( are you reading this triumph ? ) . thanks .
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  12. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    So, black then, eh?

    Ok.
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  13. Worroll

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    I think people don't realize how easy it is to change the color of a motorcycle.

    Remove plastics and tank on Sunday afternoon.
    Drop plastics off at paint shop on Monday morning.
    Pick up plastics throughout the week.
    Reinstall plastics Saturday morning.
    Ride bike Saturday afternoon.

    What they should do is offer a primed only option, you pick it up and have it painted whatever you want.
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  14. Grainbelt

    Grainbelt marginal adventurer Super Moderator

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    Given the taste of the vast majority of the American public, resale would drop by exactly the cost of repainting the bike. :deal
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  15. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    How did you feel about Victory's design of the Vision?

    Most folks thought it was too radical, too "out there", unconventional.

    So, would you rather have a variation on your vanilla ice cream, or tutti fruitti?
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  16. Rider

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    The Vision is a bike I've really tried to like and I admire Victory for going out on a limb.
    However, at the end of the day, I think that limb got sawed off and fell into a pit of burning hydrochloric acid. :lol3
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  17. elementalg20

    elementalg20 Been here awhile

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    That's about the best point I've scene made in the thread lol. Obviously, they look a fair amount alike, but who cares? China makes an suv that looks like an X5 bmw.....how do you suppose they compare other than looks?

    Lets see how the bike performs on the road, hopefully Triumph did the work, and its performance, comfort, and reliability will speak for itself. I for one hope it's cheaper, as or more reliable, as comfortable, and hides some of its darn weight, I'm sure the explorer motor will work great. I for one am more concerned about its weight than its bmw esque cosmetics.

    K1300GT "fully fueled read to ride" 288kg Trophy 1200 "ready to ride" 301kg

    Anyone else see that not being a good thing for the triumph? Not saying I won't possibly buy one some day.....just been nice if it was alot lighter.
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  18. limeymike

    limeymike Who Me?

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    When it comes down to I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about the bike i'm buying. If I like the look of it and like the way it rides and I'm happy that's all that matters. Ooooh, it looks like an RT, Oooooh I don't like the antenna, Oooooh I don't like the blue, Oooooh. Are you kidding me? You sound like a bunch of Corvette owners. :D:1drink
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  19. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

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    Plus the longer service intervals.
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  20. njd

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    I'd rather a new bike not look 90% like every other bike in its segment.
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