2013 XT250 w/ FI

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  1. poolman

    poolman Gnarly Poolside Adv.

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    Hi RigaDorje,

    I love my 2007 XT225 but I am seriously considering upgrading to a 2013 XT250; in my opinion the fuel injection is a huge improvement. I notice one dealer in York, PA (about an hour from DC) lists the 2013 as in stock:

    Action Motorsports
    (877) 380-1644

    Cheers,
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  2. RigaDorje

    RigaDorje Aspiring ADV

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    Thanks poolman - just shot them an email.

    I'm also stoked about the EFI. Though I read someone say that because the US version is a closed-loop EFI (no oxygen sensor), it cannot make mixture adustments. Can anyone break down the claim? (Perhaps the engineers used another method to enable dynamic adjustments)
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  3. Speedo66

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    Just curious if the XT250's have the thin weak spoke/weak rear wheel problems that the XT225's are notorious for?
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  4. freetors

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    I imagine it only looks at the map sensor and air temperature as the variables it can adjust to. Lots of bike are like this.
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  5. 150ron

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    Nope, that was only the xt225's, the xt250's are great, no problems what so ever.
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  6. NJ-Brett

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    Open loop is no oxy sensor, closed loop is using the oxy sensor.

    So if it says it runs closed loop, it has an oxy sensor.

    Not that it makes any real difference, no bikes use the oxy sensors much, they are just to pass emissions and only work at moderate throttle and rpm's, where no one riding a 250 spends much time.

    It sure would be nice if the systems were like cars and used closed loop all the time, then, just like cars, you could change the intake and exhaust and the system would just correct for the changes, without a programer.

    As I see it, the xt250 has some drawbacks, a non plated bore, so the bike will run hotter, minimal oil capacity, and 2 valves.
    So its going to run hot and not be able to make a good amount of power, and its stuck with a 5 speed trans.
    I had a 1981 xt250 and the new bike is likely not one bit better then athat one.
    The 81 was 20 pounds lighter, had a 5 speed, had about the same motor, made 22 hp.
    So really, 30 years on they make about the exact same bike????

    30 years and no 4 valves and a 6 speed trans?






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  7. montesa_vr

    montesa_vr Legend in his own mind

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    If you want 4 valves and a 6-speed, Yamaha offers the WR250R. The XT seems like a nice bike for do-it-yourself types, with no coolant to flush, simple oil changes, simple valve adjustments, and no carb to ever need cleaning after sitting over winter. Kind of a modern version of what the late Gordon Jennings would have called a stone axe motorcycle.
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  8. rivercreep

    rivercreep Banned

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    You're wrong here...it has Yamahas version of NikaSil. (they just call it something different)
    I can vouch for this engine being bullet proof and also note, it's used in the Raptor and Tricker...both very abused types of machines and there are no reports I've heard of, from them going BOOM!

    If they fix the quality of their painted pieces, I'd consider another one.

    ...Owners of the 13...can it still loft the wheel instantly in first and second like the carbed version could?
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  9. silverhead

    silverhead Been here awhile

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    Hi there,

    I think I have finally gotten down to the few bikes I'm considering to purchase to scratch the enduro itch. One of them is the XT250.

    Do any of you happen to know if the horsepower has increased with the 2013, fuel injected model? I can't find any specifications online anywhere. The carbed version supposedly made 16 horsepower and 13 ft/lb of torque. I like the fact that apparently the bore is coated, the crank bearing is larger, and the piston has been redesigned. But... I can obviously save about half of the purchase price by picking up a used 2008 or 2009 model with hardly any miles on the clock.

    Are all of these 2013 changes worth the added price if I were to buy one new? Fuel injection on a bike like these that take a while to warm up on a cold day when using a choke is appealing to me. But, everything I own right now is old, carbureted, and I am used to it and I'll deal with it if there's not a huge difference in power output and projected long term durability of the engine.

    Thanks!
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  10. NJ-Brett

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    Not sure about the rest of the changes, but just adding FI does not usually boost power.
    And say you was to pull the snorkel and open up the exhaust, a carb takes a few $5.00 jets to correct, FI needs a power comander or something expensive to correct it.

    I always liked pumper carbs, just as good as FI.
    My old XT had a pumper carb stock, ah the good old days...
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  11. 150ron

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    the new fuel injected models make 2 more horsepower, they make 18 compared to the previous carb'd models 16.
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  12. jon_l

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    Just for discussion, per our own Montesa_vr's outstanding thread:

    3.90 Yamaha XT225 (6 speed) 19.69
    3.78 Honda CRF230L (6 speed) 19.12
    3.63 Kawasaki Sherpa 250 (6 speed) 18.30
    3.46 Yamaha XT250 2008 (5 speed) 17.50
    3.36 Yamaha WR250R/WR250X (6-speed) 16.99

    While I get that simple-is-good, I would have a hard time buying a new XT with the Honda available. Among $5k and under bikes, it looks like a peach. The weight is a concern, but for road use it doesn't matter at all, and most of these bikes don't see much single-track where the extra pork would really suck.

    A used XT is another story, if it fits (hey are pretty small).
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  13. Reposado1800

    Reposado1800 Juicy J fan!

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    I think Yamaha targeted the crowd that needs simple as priority number 1. It is good to go without needing one modification.
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  14. carlclaflin

    carlclaflin Been here awhile

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    howdy xt fans
    i currently have a 94 xt225 w/ 11500+ miles. I've been comparing the new crf250l and xt250. it seem in order for honda to keep the cost down, they put on some cheap stuff... i've been reading the cfr250l thread. anyways i really like my xt. i'm the 3rd owner, i changed the oil/ filter and air filter, plus adjusted the valves. She runs like a champ, i had it on the freeway for the first time last week -70mph.
    i just want to know how you'all like the new xt250 F.I.?

    i tried to post a pic., but for some reason it is not wanting to display.
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  15. carlclaflin

    carlclaflin Been here awhile

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  16. jungleplant

    jungleplant Motorcyle & Jeep Stuff

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    Hey guy hows it going , we are gonna be making a rack for this bike and need a set of grab bars for awhile , anybody wanna help:deal:deal
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  17. mjs91882

    mjs91882 Adventurer

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    So how do you all like you 2013 FI version of this bike? Im really having a hard time deciding between the Yamaha Xt250 FI or the Honda crf250L fuel injected. What would be better off road??
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  18. Strapping Lad

    Strapping Lad Silent Observer

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    Only put about 230 miles on mine since picking it up new last week, but the FI is great. No surprises and starts every time. Cable throttle, so it's very progressive and smooth delivery. I couldn't be happier for a little 250.

    From what I've read the CRF, KLX, and XT put out the same rwhp except the XT is stupid simple to maintain and went 140 miles before the reserve light came on and still had over half a gallon left in the tank. :wink:

    Oh, and the dealer I went through dropped the price $400 below the MSRP of the CRF for me. Couldn't say no to $1000 of the MSRP!
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  19. mjs91882

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    Dang what a deal you got!!! I have heard that it gets only 18 horsepower, which is fine. Do you know if there are any mods you can do to this bike to give it more horsepower??
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  20. mjs91882

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    Anyone know when the first service date is to get the valves checked?? How many miles?? Is it hard to check them yourself and do on this bike? I have really never done valve checks before..
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