2014 DL1000 Vstrom

Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by The Game, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. onarock

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  5. danketchpel

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    That's me. After living with a very reliable old school BMW shaft for 150,000 miles, then going back to a chain on the Vee, well..... that's a big part of why I bought my Stelvio.

    If Suzuki had added shaft drive to the new Vee I would have seriously condidered it. I truly believe they should put a shaft on the Vee and leave a chain on the Wee. Suzuki knows how to build a good shaft drive.

    Simply having to think about a chain on a long trip isn't where I'm at. And late model BMWs are pretty much the only bikes with shaft drive problems. There is a very long list of shaft drive bikes without any problems.
  6. M0t0Rider

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    When the 500 mile day is over... lube and go inside.

    Not sure what the big deal is...even shaft drive needs maintenance.

    Shaft drive = loss of power thats why most manufactures dont go this direction.

    Americans are all about big Horse Power numbers shaft drives are always down on power.

    I do understand the shaft drive mystic but I never had one and probably wont.

    Enjoying my over complicated and hard to deal with chains! :lol3
  7. GrahamD

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    Chains are not such a big deal in normal riding. With an oiler all they really need is the back wheel cleaned up if you are that precious about it.

    If the Manufacturers would go back to the sealed chain system for adv bikes that would be be the best of both worlds. But alas too many people would laugh at the looks and wouldn't buy based on that.

    Anyways sprockets in the mud and dust are a pain on long trips, but since most people just like to think they are on a long trip I suppose it's not a problem in reality.
  8. Dolly Sod

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    I'm glad it's got a chain. I can count on two hands the number of times I lubed my last wee Strom chain. Replaced it at 25,000 miles. Might have adjusted it 3-4 times.

    If someone wants a shaftie there are plenty of other bikes to choose from.

    I've never seen the need for an automatic oiler either.

    YMMV
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    You are soooooooo right. I have lubed my chain maybe 3 times in 11,000 miles.
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    I used to be in that camp, but then I decided to try a modern chain drive bike, an FZ6. Since then I have had a DL1000 and now I am on a DL650. The chain has not been a problem. At this point I see advantages to a chain. It reduces cost, weight, complexity, and allows for gearing changes. They require very little maintenance. don't fear the chain!
  11. danketchpel

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    I understand chains very well. I have a DL1000, KLR650, DRZ400... all with modern o-ring chains. No they are not a "problem" per se. Yes they have become very reliable with a typical lifespan of 20-25k miles. Yes, they have some advantages of which easy gearing changes is one of the best.

    I don't fear the chain, I just prefer to change the oil at 25k than spend $300 to replace the chain & sprockets and muck about with the lube/mess in between.

    I think there appear to be 2 main camps, chain & shaft, plus the belt drive cruiser guys. It's good to have the option to get what you want.

    It will be interesting to see how well the updated Vee will be received. It would be interesting to record viewer's comments with the bike on display at a major motorcycle show.
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    I'd just hate to hear you pass on a fantastic bike just because of chain drive. My new 2013 Multistrada might go on the chopping block if Suzuki brings the right bike to the market.....never know... Yea..I fear the new DL1000 will be uglier than previous especially if that concept thing makes it to the market...ohh gawd!

    spin and spray ...spin and spray ...:lol3

  13. RaY YreKa

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    Probably four words: too little, too late..
  14. danketchpel

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    Already did, I'm loving my 2013 Stelvio NTX. :D

    I test rode the 2013 Multistrada, it's a nice bike with an amazing engine. If I wanted a sport bike with upright ergos & luggage that would be my pick.

    I hope Suzuki sells a lot of the revamped Vee, it will help the market and prompt Suzuki to keep at it. I have enjoyed my Vee, chain and all.
  15. Dolly Sod

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    Everyone passes on a fantastic bike for one reason or another. Chain drive, can bus, perceived reliability, fuel range, fuel economy, dealer network, aftermarket support, wheel size etc. Different strokes for different folks. They don't like a chain, whatever reasons they present will not change their mind.

    I'd rather not have a bike with can bus or a final drive. Yet there are plenty of people who will defend them tooth and nail. I don't care what they say.
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    from this video above the designer wanted to reduce weight as much as possible. chain & sprockets weigh less than shaft.

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    I hope those sidecases really attach as close to the sub frame, as in that drawing. Making it ridiculously wide, like before, serves no purpose.
  19. Desert Dave

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    Seems they want to address the touring crowd here, which the designer states he is part of. Anybody else notice he considers a good day 250 miles?? (400km). Not a bad afternoon ride but we might have a different idea of the bikes intended use :lol3

    Brakes should be excellent and if they get the ABS and traction control correct this could be interesting. Really, really curious to see what they did with the motor. If they make a significant increase I could see trading in my current Strom. Maybe a Jap version of the Explorer?

    I've only owned three bikes with a shaft, and the first two you KNEW it was a shaft everytime you rode it. My Tenere has minimized the shaft effect so much that I'll take the low maintenance anyday. Not that a chain would scare me off, but a shaft done right seems like a good selling point on a bike like this.
  20. RaY YreKa

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    Of the larger ADV tourers, it seems that the new Capo has the edge on pricing.

    This new Strom is hideous, to my eyes at least.

    The only way it will compete is on cheap finance, if Suzuki can swing it. Pre-2008 that seems to be what sold Suzukis.

    Of all the marques, Suzuki seemed to only value one of their lines (the GSX-R bikes) and the arse fell out of the rest of the range when no-one could finance a bike.

    I'm not sure they have truly learned anything.