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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by The Game, Sep 11, 2012.
It's a 19" Wheel not a 17. It has pretense.
So much potential and time to get it right. Now another street bike.
Jack it up a few inches an dump some of the plastic. Great motor looking for a home... And protection.
Please find some way to reasonably add a bash plate, and rase the fender so the TKC's won't rip it off at the first sign of mud (if by chance fitted).
That muffler could be raised up a tad as well. New non piano wire bars. How much can that cost ?
Traded in my beloved Pedro for a GSA, but still have a soft spot for the big DL. Once I retire, I would truly love to build a 1000 based machine. Some inmate did a great job on a rebuild (red with a single headlight and some bed liner tank protection that I cannot link to post). Kudos to him.
ADV version ? Throw us a bone.
Best of luck Suzuki.
In the interview I posted earlier, the rep speaks of the development focus lying on lightness - how every single component has been trimmed for weight.
What that exactly translates to remains to be seen, but that was apparently the ambition.
It's actually growing on me. The beak is still multistrada-ugly and would probably need to be cut off, but with a white scheme I think it could look real nice. I do like curves more than edges though, so I would still prefer the revamped-650-style to this.
I like the way you think. I'm keeping my fingers crossed they go the way Triumph did with the 800. A street version along with the 800XC for the more adventurous souls.
Me, if they hold below 10k price and avialable ABS , suzuki might give a run to all the 15k plus bikes .
Not according to this link (on post #85), though I don´t know how well informed they are:
"Originally built around the TL v-twin motor, Suzuki has built a whole new 1,000cc v-twin engine for the new Strom bike, and has added other features like traction control and ABS to the mix. With 17″ wheels front and aft, the 2014 Suzuki V-Strom 1000 looks to be still a very road-oriented machine, though it is possible that Suzuki could produce the bike as two models, each with different wheelsets for road and off-road usage."
Next year - in europe - all bikes will be with only ABS.
10K of what ??? Dollars?
probably no way to have it that cheap.
Might it be cheaper and more reliable than the beemer? - Yes. Than the tenere - maybe.
Than the Multistrada? - F...ing of course.
And to Pecha - 72
This bike that they put out for show -is 17 in the back and 19 up front.
No matter the taste - if it has that motor, will be revised, with better clutch and even 15kg lighter than the DL was - I will buy!
Only just realised: it has chain drive.
Two koolaid bottles avoided then! Good on Suzuki! The third one, the beak, is easily enough changed with a hacksaw....
Whoever wrote that must be blind.
Put a powered adjustable windscreen on it like the FJR, and i'd buy it..
I finally put my finger on it.......
Howard the Duck!
Please Suzuki do something about that beak thing....I hate it
I gave it the usual 24hrs to make a decision on the situation and it just did not get any better..
Bike would have to be dirt cheap and the performance stellar to get me on one of these things....
Suzuki has failed in the styling department..
Yep, it looked like 19 to me from that photo, too.
Also would be strange, if they claimed it an "ADV" bike, but then put 17 inch front on it.
Just fix the front fairing, and make sure those brilliant headlights aren´t gone, otherwise I think it´ll be a mighty fine tourer/adventurer.
(... and hopefully it´ll be a bit lighter than some of the competition, that would be a smart move)
Yeah, should have been more specific about that. Looks like they more than covered the issue on the concept...which is great!
Some of my points were covered on this concept and some where up in the air. Chief being the clutch basket and fueling in my mind.
I for one am glad to see it stay as a 1000 instead of porking up another 50lbs and going to a 1200. Plenty of choices on the market for a 1200. If they can keep the weight and fuel consumption down a bit due to keeping the 1000 and refining, it gives the DL1K a bit of a niche market. Can you call a 1000cc bike middleweight??:huh
You can call the Multistrada 1200 a middleweight. The new DL1000 will be more successful if they can keep from increasing the weight over the previous version. It should be lighter than shaft drive bikes, and lighter than 3 and 4 cylinder bikes of similar displacement. And 800cc bikes are currently not enough hp for me.
I'm a big fan of Japanese made 90 degree twin motorcycles. I have no problem having to add aftermarket exhaust and ecu reprogram on a new bike to get it to run properly.
Personally I am more concerned with weight than appearance. There are way too many fat pig adventure bikes out there already.
Hummmm....this looks familiar
Can´t say the new GS1200 pleases my eye... (or the Versys 1000 for that matter!) The concept DL1000 looks better than either of them IMO.
But I still think its styling will change at least a bit, and most likely towards the current DL650, before it goes into production.
my guess is this showing is a reaction campaign.
the used red to draw your attention to features.
even the motor cover is red. red is not the most flattering look for the bike however.
suzuki has to be reading all the feedback found everywhere.
yes it's obvious who suzuki is going after, but so is everyone else.
At last a sign of life and resurrection for the real Strom...
Before the rocks start coming in, my biggest concern would be for the existing headlight. I have an '03 DL1000. I own a handful of other bikes and I've rented/ridden a handful of different brands over the last decade. There is NO other bike I know of that has the headlights that are as useful and just plain good/excellent as the VStrom. I make it a point to not ride at night, but have occasionally been caught out. My Strom's headlights are better than some cars I've ridden in. I mean they are so much better it's not even close.
Rented a then new Goldwing, then new GS 1200, then new ST1300, none of their lights came close. I absolutely hated the GS headlight--some half-assed circle with rings of missing light that didn't illuminate a very wide area. I have a MG Norge and it has 4 headlights--all making the same kind of circular pattern but the lighting is uneven. The Tiger's light is poorer by a mile.
If I have to be out after dark I want to see the road really well and I want the lighting to be consistent and light up a wide swath. The cost of "real" aftermarket motorcycle accessory lights is obscene, IMO. I never felt I needed any with the VStrom. OK, just keep the friggin' headlights as the absolute best lights in the business, build the bike around that.
Now then---so who's got spec's on the "new" engine? Did they do anything to HP/torque????
I'm strongly leaning to switch out the Strom & Tiger ('07 1050 ABS) for a newer Tiger 800--which at almost 50 pounds less has basically the same HP (someone else here said they'd miss the HP if they went under 1 liter) and while less torque, I'm thinking with the less weight, it's close enough. (and with less weight the effective HP may be more as well.)
If the new liter Strom has ABS (selectable) with TC, I would be very strongly tempted--but keep the lights!! PLEASE keep the lights!! It's also a styling "homage" to a bike that probably has kept Suzuki's motorcycle division in business through the last few years of economic hell.
A few incoming pelts from under-endowed WeeStrommers now hitting the bunker, I'll close the door for now.
**http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/yelrotflmao.gif Just kidding about the Wee--I rented one for 2 weeks and found it an excellent machine overall, lighter, quicker turn in, etc etc. But it simply runs out of juice at the high end when you need to pass now. I'm glad they make it and gladder still that so many enjoy it. I just need the afterburner kick of the liter.
I could give or take the looks. It's the performance I want to know. How well does it handle off-road. Does it "feel" lighter? Is the engine smoother, less snatchy and chudder free?
The Super Tenere has really upset the balance in the Adventure market by making a bike handle off-road better than the GS. Off-road handling is really where they could strengthen their market share. Without it, it's just another street bike to compare against other street bikes.
Looks like they reduced some weight up top to lower the center of gravity. I'd like to know if there are any rake/trail changes.
The wheels look soft as butter though. Those mag spokes look a little spindly. Maybe they're saving some weight there too?
Looks like you might be able to drill some new holes in that fender and raise it up a bit to keep it from shredding to bits when a tkc-80 picks up a rock.