2014 Honda CTX700 Threadfest

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by HondaFanatic, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    Well said.

    So some org that calls themself "faster and faster" doesn't like the CTX? I'm shocked! :lol3

    It really bugs me, all this whining about "dull" and "slow". Gee whiz folks, if it don't blow your skirt up, move on. Do you think that Honda should target every new offering directly to you? I mean, Honda has come out with a lot of new products over the last year or so - but NONE of it is what I would have picked. And they already had the bikes I wanted in Japan and/or Europe. I applaud them just the same. The NC concept is something completely new, and it has gotten rave reviews all over the world. Are you really surprised that Honda would try to build on that? I suspect they have done their homework and they feel the CTX will bring in some new riders. God knows WE could use some fresh blood to help push motorcyclist's rights, make America more aware of two wheelers, use less gas/oil, take up less parking... This is nothing but a good thing.

    Rock on, Honda!

    Oh, and if you could see fit to ship me a CB1300 Bol D'or I sure would appreciate it. Red and white please, with black wheels and hard bags. And send me one of those robots too. It can mow the yard while I go riding.
  2. Unleaded

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    Ummm...nice try, but well thought out, logical responses have no place in this thread. Please move along. :lol3
  3. MookieBlaylock

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    i thought this was a discussion forum where all points of view are welcome
  4. Yossarian™

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    I see this thread has been merged. Yay.
  5. RaY YreKa

    RaY YreKa Palanquins RTW

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    That's where I'm at too. And I haven't been a fan of Honda for the last few years. I instantly disliked the 700X on styling and the filler-cap placement, but it's gone on to be a Top 10 or Top 5 seller in the UK, Germany, and Italy. The USA owners on this site seem to love them. The CTX and - especially - the CB500X, I could live with.

    The big thing for me, and a lot of people I know these days, is 'total cost to own'. With gas being so expensive over here, I need to think about how many trips I can afford over a year, and if it comes down to a bike I love that does 40mpg and a bike I can live with that does 70mpg, well that's a lot of extra miles & smiles I can enjoy.

    Add low insurance grouping, accessories, and long service intervals, and I can just get on with camping, visiting friends, touring, commuting/lane-splitting, what have you.

    Since these bikes are also A2 compliant (the new tiered licencing) I could also pay it off and then hand it to my son when he's 19. My hypothetical Tiger 800 XC and Moto Guzzi Griso will just have to wait a few more years.

    If you're a high-end buyer, what BMW or Ducati would refer to as a 'premium customer' these bikes probably aren't for you.
  6. mrbreeze

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    It is, but if the bike is of no interest to someone, why hang around here? Lot's of people "don't get it". It may turn out that Honda "doesn't get it". Judging by the hot and cold reactions ( mostly cold), they probably will not do well with this bike - unless they can bring in new riders - and I think that is what they are going for. It's the smart thing to do, but a huge risk, and Honda has the guts to take it. That is why I applaud them, and why everyone else should too. As motorcyclists, we are what? 2% of the population? Granted, 2% of 300+ million is still a lot of people, but some of those never buy a new bike, some rarely do, and what's left over has a lot of choices available to them. So Honda is looking for an untapped market. They are boldly going where no man has gone before - (wait a minute, gotta get my Spock ears on).

    Live long and prosper.
  7. Mobiker

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    You pretty much describe the NC700S as far as footpeg position and bigger tank. Too bad we don't get it.
    Although given a lot of comments in this thread it probably wouldn't sell here.

    I agree with your comments regarding power and handling also.

    A lot of riders don't get the old adage, "Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow."
  8. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    Last year scooters outsold dual sports in the US and Harley (almost all of which have feet forward controls) essentially outsold all other manufacturers combined. So there does appear to be actual sales evidence that slow and dull sells pretty well here in the states.

    These new bikes may not be my cup of tea, but to dismiss them because they do not meet MY riding style is just silly. Lots of new riders may be looking for something dependable and forgiving, even if some more experienced riders find them a bit dull. Time will tell.
  9. CGameProgrammer

    CGameProgrammer Been here awhile

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    I think this bike is a good idea. The reason the fuel tank is conventional is so the seat would be as low as possible, and it is VERY low. Remember that unlike a cruiser, this bike is narrow, so even someone five feet tall would have easy ground reach. However they would not have easy peg reach - I think the pegs are way too far forward. But at least you wouldn't have to use your feet much with the DCT.

    It's true that some bikes are relatively boring. The NT700 Deauville, nee Dullville, is the most-cited example. I myself had an FZ-1 and while I had a lot of fun on it, the bike itself was a bit boring.
  10. JerryH

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    Exactly. If you don't like this bike, your likely to be very disappointed at what the future has to offer. Soon all bikes will be like this, only even more boring. When the guvment and the insurance industry get their fangs into something, they don't let go. New cars are proof of that. Driven a Prius lately? And now they have targeted motorcycles. Be glad you've had it good for so long. Cars weren't so lucky. I suggest you get out there and buy the bike you want now, it may not be there much longer.
  11. dduelin

    dduelin Amazing grace how sweet the sound....

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    Hey wait a minute. I read this same letter on the op ed page of my Shaft City Gazette this morning except it had gun and high capacity magazine where this post had car and motorcycle. Heyall Yeah! They kin have my 85 Goldwing when they pry it out of my cold dead hands!
  12. Tim McKittrick

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    Skimming through most of the comments here makes me want to point out the obvious:

    If you are even on Advrider you are likely a more experienced motorcycle enthusiast, and you are NOT the target market Honda is banking on. Honda is trying to open a market of new and inexperienced riders and price and styling are more important than outright performance. Dull is GOOD in this market- too many beginning riders have been pushed to start riding on 600cc sport bikes and have scared themselves witless and backed out of the sport all together. The popularity of cruisers in the beginning market supports the notion that speed isn't the most important point here- and it's worth keeping in mind that what we consider slow and dull is actually pretty fast when compared to what most beginning riders are accustomed to. Even a ninja 250 seems pretty alarming if its the only motorcycle you've ever ridden, and when compared to the family sedan it's a bloody rocket.

    Time will tell, of course, but it looks like Honda has finally decided the way ahead is not to keep following the arms race of bigger, faster and more complex and to instead increase its sales base. Harley has shown it can grow a market without relying on outright performance and instead focusing on image. Honda appears to be trying to return to the sales notion of low cost fun for all, the very idea that launched them in the first place.

    I for one hope it works.
  13. Paebr332

    Paebr332 Good news everyone!

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    Bwahaahaa!!!

    If you think modern cars are so much worse than cars "back in the day," I suggest you remove your rose colored glasses. You can buy family sedans today that have as much power as muscle cars from the mid-70's, and with better brakes and suspensions thrown in for free.

    For every Prius sold there is also something like a new Mustang, or Hyundai Genesis coupe, or Scion FRZ, or Subaru STi or Cadillac STS or BMW M3 or Corvette or GTR or... sold.
  14. MookieBlaylock

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    Wasn't the Cub like 2oo lbs and ridiculously ez to pilot? I was looking at an
    NC at the dealer the other day and it's not a particularly small or light bike. Not sure if the newby 100 pound girl is going to find these things that ez to ride


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  15. Tim McKittrick

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    Very true- and I think it's still being made, in one form or another. But the US and world market isnt the same now as it was then, and if you compare bikes across the range of what is presently available the Hondas look at least moderately friendlier.

    Of course, I think they all weigh 200 pounds too much. But keep in mind the only bike I've ever ridden that seem light enough was my Honda RS250.
  16. GrahamD

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    Reading through this it seems everyone has a similar response to the press at the launch of the original NC700..

    As the late Kevin Ash said..

    So expect a bunch of Journo's (and inmates) having a whinge about the fact that it doesn't have so much power you can't use it 99.9% of the time now, up from 99.6% of the time last year, and the rest to get what Honda are doing.

    Just for the record I don't like the looks of the CTX "faired" version and would prefer the N version although I think I would give both a miss. The X or S makes more sense to me.

    Funnily enough, here is the variant that has the closest power curve to a classic cruiser and people are still pissing on. :lol3

    I suppose that's because the cylinders are in the wrong spot and it is actually economical right?

    No petrol and potato soul.
  17. mrbreeze

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    I ride a Nomad, so the NC feels like a bicycle with a motor to me. But I see your point. A newbie, especially someone light of weight and short of inseam, would probably be in over their head. I know my wife couldn't ride it, and she does have some experience. The CTX may be the cure for that. It's got a 28" seat height, and the bars are relatively high and back. Hopefully anyone who can flat foot it can reach the pegs. It's not a Cub, though.

    One of the new bikes Honda has come out with recently, and apparently almost no one noticed, was their new little scooter PCX150. This thing is small. Seat height is 29 inches, Curb weight is under 300 pounds. Honda claims over 100 mpg. Mrs. B could ride this. :D
  18. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    According to a rider's favorite site, cycle-ergos, it shows that anyone with an inseam shorter than 29", his/her feet won't reach the pegs. 27-28" inseam can still flat foot but not ride, a strange ergo setup from Honda, for sure. That is just an average, but I've found that the specs and angles shown there to be accurate in my case, when looking at different motorcycles.

    The NC700S sits more like a standard motorcycle with mid pegs and lower,more forward bar placement, but alas, not currently destined for the USA. Guess Honda believes a "cruiser" set up will be more widely accepted here, for Comfort's sake...tomp dd50
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    one reminds me of the other...
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    Because they are both red.............:eek1...........:D