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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by HondaFanatic, Feb 6, 2013.
In the grand scheme there are not many "enthusiast" left in the US market...........and they all have several bikes
The new (3) 500's and NC700X are good start.
I suppose this is what Honda thinks will sell in the American market. Low seat height and cruiser ergos are what they think we want. Even though these have no interest to me, I could see them being popular here. Honda sees growth potential in the lower end practical market and are filling holes there. You could do worse than a fairly cool looking bike that's very practical and economical and you don't have to deal with shifting if you don't want to.
I must admit I am a bit disappointed. I was hoping for something completely new, with maybe a 900cc motor. I will reserve final judgement until I see one in the flesh, however. Not crazy about a 3 gallon gas tank, either. When I saw the first pic and realized it was the same motor as the NC700X, I thought for sure it would carry at least 5 gallons.
I do like the looks of this quite a bit:
I must admit that my first impression of these new 700s is that they are targeted toward the existing rider's "little lady", who would like to get off the old man's pillion seat and on to a ride of her own. But, wants something that looks a bit pretty, has a low seat height, and manageable power.
Maybe Honda is switching focus to "commuter" rather than "enthusiast" motorcycles, but as someone who rides everyday, I'll be picking up a V-strom for my next bike, not a Honda.....[/QUOTE]
I agree.. I had an 05 DL650 and rocked it for a few years, it was an impossibly good tourer, outfitted properly. I think this actually looks great with the accessory tall windshield and bags, but if you arent vertically challenged, and prefer to occasionally unweight your body with your legs, a 2012 wee looks hard to beat for the same money. ..it sure is nice to be able to stand on the pegs easily and air your ass out for a few minutes while you are cruising.. Im just wondering what this bike does better than anything else out there I guess.. Its kind of ironic to me how honda made a bike with such a fairing, seating position, and touted long range comfort, only to adorn it with a 3gal tank..im still kinda interested though..been looking forever for a modern replacement for a cherry old GL500 I should never have sold..
"With its new full-coverage fairing and windscreen, the CTX700 lets you enjoy long trips in comfort. But that fairing is a great choice for commuters on chilly mornings toothis is a bike that can really do it all."
Here's a pic of the CTX700N in red.
Also for the NC700X fans the UltimateMotorcycling.com article states:
"The CTX lineup will feature the same parallel twin that is featured in the NC700X, which also returns in 2013 with two new color changes.'
At least American Honda is giving some us a few color choices.
Edit: More info/pics/accessories/etc at the website now http://powersports.honda.com/ctx.aspx?from=http://ctx.honda.com/
Possibly Honda is using the F800GT, in a price point state of build, as a basis to draw customers their way...Can't afford a Beemer, but wants a mid sized tourer/commuter, look at this Honda... The F800 is really good looking. The Honda is trying.
I was hoping for a sport-tourer with the NC concept and 700cc engine.
Instead, I got an ugly DN-01 rehash with a tiny tank and smaller "not a tank".
Are those saddlebags the same tiny pizza boxes from the NC700X?
As the kids would say these days, "Fail".
I would have preferred the NC700S to this.
Yeah,Honda has boring down to a T,even their CRF450 cant win a shootout anymore. Honda fanatics slobber over the latest "sensible" bikes from Honda.
Sensible doesnt really sell in America much.
KTM,BMW and other euro builders have dove in deep and are increasing market share while Honda and other japanese builders slumber along. Imagination seems to be lacking.
Funny you say that, because that is exactly what I had in mind. But I won't go from a gorgeous F800 to a poorly conceptualized and executed (my opinion, I know) CTX700.
If Honda had the F800GT in mind AT ALL, they blew it, huge.
Def on the thin side
I've had brief cases larger than that. Not going to carry much if both sides are the same size. tp
I would like to know where it is made.
Also the ultimatemotorcycling.com article says
So it seems the filler cap is not under the seat (yay!) but the gas tank now resides in the storage area that the NC700X has. I hope that means there is a nice under seat storage area??? I realize you can't stick a helmet in there, but it is easy enough to lock a helmet to a bike. I would prefer the storage area to be under the seat. That is where I like to stick things that I rarely need, but never leave home without - like a tire repair kit and an air compressor. A few choice tools. A light weight rainsuit, a u-lock? Depends on what will fit. Who knows, you may even be able to get a tripod in there!
Not impressed or excited by these bikes
More bikes in search of a market?
oh yeah, I forgot to say - somewhere I read about the seat, but I can't find it now. Anyway it sounds like Honda has made a serious attempt at producing a comfortable seat. It does appear to be nice and wide, and nicely shaped.
The saddle bags do look thin, but what is their capacity? I suspect it is more than it appears to be. Besides, if they are too small for you, you can take comfort that they are probably too expensive also A good set of 35 liter soft bags can be had for cheap. I bought a pair new for $50. Used them once. A guy I know liked them and offered me $100 for them. They are his now.
Like I said, I am not crazy about the 3.17 gallon tank, but if the bike is knocking back 60-70 mpg, that's over 180 - 210 mile range. Not too shabby. My Nomad carries 5+ gallons but it only gets 35 - 40 mpg, so the Honda has a better range than the bike I have now. And the Nomad likes the expensive stuff.
Those look like Givi V35 cases.
I agree, it's a good looking bike and looks like it will provide pretty good wing protection.
But seriously, 3 gallons and forward controls?
I think so. Honda doubled down on their previous failure with the Pacific Coast.......
Makes sense for the N/A marketplace; cruiser ergos without (most) of the weight.
Looks good, not for me.
I'd reserve judgement until ridden though myself.