2014 Honda CTX700 Threadfest

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by HondaFanatic, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. mrbreeze

    mrbreeze Long timer

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    I was hoping for some totally new bike, hopefully something in the 900 - 1000 range, with shaft drive preferably. Unfortunately this is not really a new bike, it's just a different format for an already released bike.

    I hope it does well. I don't know if one will make it to my garage or not. It's possible, but the odds aren't good. I doubt Mrs. B could see the wisdom of owning a second motorcycle. :cry I have to admit though, if it had been something like the CBF1000 or the CB1300 Bol d'Or, I would probably be :happay:rilla:tb
  2. YJake

    YJake Wrenchin'

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    If they are going after BMW's F800GT they failed hard. Even with the price point in mind I have no idea what they were thinking.

    -Jake
  3. GrahamD

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    I didn't think you were a conspiracy theorist Mark. This is a whole new side of you I didn't think existed. :lol3

    [​IMG]

    By the way I'd turn that web cam off if I were you..
  4. stripple

    stripple Runnin' Hard

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    Honda, you were once my favorite. I mourn the loss of what you used to be. Thank god for Kawasali, they still have the spirit of fun...


    These bikes are atrocious.:puke1
  5. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    Honda was always this way. The original Civic, Accord, and Prelude were the same frame, variants on the same motor. They aren't really alone, either.


    When you think about it, the more bikes they can stick an engine in, the better. It is pretty stupid to have an engine only in a single model.
  6. JerryH

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    The CRF250L is a dual sport, not a commuter. It's not even a good dual sport, the gas tank is too small, and it has no place to carry anything. Maybe the aftermarket will come to the rescue

    The CBR250, NC700, and those CB500 things all have sportbike riding positions. Not everyone wants to be twisted up into a pretzel to ride a motorcycle.


    And yes, the cruiser riding position does put all your weight on your ass, where it should be. Having to support half your weight with your arms and shoulders is not what I would call comfortable. And having to crane your neck all the way back to see where you are going hurts like hell. So does having your knees bent back as far as they. In order to get max comfort from a cruiser, you do have to have something to lean back against, so you are not trying to pull yourself forward. Hopefully someone will make a riders backrest for this bike, if not you can always strap a sleeping bag to the passenger part of the seat for support. The cruiser riding position is almost exactly the same as the position you are in when driving a car (or riding a scooter) Sitting in a nice comfortable seat with a back, feet forward, steering wheel close enough to easily reach with a good bend in your elbows. No pressure on your arms, legs, or back. Your neck is straight, so there is no stress there either. Recliners have this sitting position. Recumbent bicycles have it. The Goldwing, HD ElectraGlide, (and the former Yamaha Venture, Suzuki Cavalcade, and Kawasaki Voyager XII) all use(d) this riding position, and they were all designed for cross country travel. And what I just described above is the reason. Comfort. I'm almost 54, and well past the "boy racer" stage. I still want to ride long distances, but without the pain. And preferably on something smaller than a Goldwing. This bike looks like it might just do the trick. I would not go for the automatic version, I have a couple of CVT scooters, and they won't climb mountains. I ride a lot in mountains, and need the low gearing of a manual transmission. And of course no ABS for me. It's really nice they give you a choice.
  7. Navin

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    I guess that makes sense, if you drive a motorcycle. :1drink
  8. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    This is ergonomically incorrect.
  9. HondaFanatic

    HondaFanatic To Ride Is To Live

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    And even more to come...

    From the CycleWorld article:

    "But wait, that’s not all. The release goes on to state: “These new models introduced today are just the first in a whole new family of CTX products of various displacements and engine configurations that will be rolled out in the future."

    Interesting. Honda is seriously going after new riders. With the line of new 500cc Twins it announced a couple of months ago, along with CBR and CRF250s and now these new CTXs, Honda has laid out a veritable smorgasbord of affordable new models no other manufacturer comes close to matching. Somebody told us Honda plans to have nine new models under $8K by 2014, which means it still has a few to go."
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  10. CGameProgrammer

    CGameProgrammer Been here awhile

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    I've added this to cycle-ergo. Click Add Motorcycle, click Recently Added, and it's at the top. Riding position is bolt upright but the legs are stretched far forward; further than on the DN-01. Seat height is indeed very low though.
  11. Gham

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    Soooooooo,who's next to announce their 2013 models? I'm ready to move on (other than the CB1100:clap) to something else.:lol3
  12. xrcris

    xrcris Been here awhile

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    Ummm....why not? It has a plate on it, your work doesn't let you in with knobbies on? :lol3

    The fact that it's not a good dual sport (heavy, underpowered and under-suspended for any real off-road riding), means that it better be good at something and as an in-city bike it would make sense. Oh, backpacks are cheap too.
  13. eatpasta

    eatpasta Lawnmower Target

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    :nod


    yeah.... all of those.
    I was starting to get excited about Honda actually getting into the core of bikes again.....the excitement is gone.

    Still have pretty high hopes from what the NC700 and CB500 platforms have to offer though
  14. GrahamD

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    +1

    Europeans have done it for a long time, except they often just tweak an engine to suit.

    Ducati start with an all out ball tearer that people will pay big bucks for and slowly de tune it it into a bunch of models.

    BMW start with a ...Never mind.

    The Japanese car manufacturers have done it since the sixties. My old Datsun was a 2litre variant of a 1.8 litre variant of a 1600cc variant of a 4 cylinder variant of a 2.4Litre / 2.6 / 2.8 litre six. All the same pistons, pumps gearboxes etc etc etc.

    It was actually quite easy to find parts. If you needed a gearbox part you had the same box in a bunch of cars. pistons, water pumps, heads, valves, clutches.

    So I think it was more of a Japanese bike manufacturers thing to try and make a bike for every niche and while they had a Cheap Yen it probably made sense. Now they have to be a bit more frugal.

    The Chinese are coming and the Japanese Manufactures are probably looking at what happened to the European's in the Eighties and HD recently.

    They do need to have some bikes that make a bit more sense for the average person out there that drive 1300cc Hyundai Getz'zzz. You don't need 600HP per ton to frighten that lot, you do need a place for the smartphone, Pad, SLR and makeup / hair gel.

    And with all us old farts about to enter the crematorium years, I suspect Honda are just trying to get into that market.

    And for the record, I got used to 600HP per ton over 30 years, but I started out with 100 and I was scared then just trying to go from push bike to that.

    and as usual my aspirations always outweighed my actual riding skills so a few accidents later I settled down. I am glad those accidents happened at sub 300Km/h speeds I can tell ya.

    In fact my first car and bike had about the same power to weight and top speed (70mph).

    So last time I looked Honda still made a rocket ship. They haven't deleted the CBR-RRR from the line up.
  15. Foot dragger

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    Comfort is different for everyone,my 1200 Triumph is a nice upright all day comfortable traveling bike,slight lean forward. Most cruisers put you bang upright over the seat if not leaning backwards a little. Having the pegs way forward means no standing up to stretch and move around.
    A straight up and down spine cant absorb bumps so they just give it a good jarring.
    You wont find many ironbutt riders lounging on cruisers.

    But of course everyone is different. Honda is trying something new again,maybe it will sell.
  16. Foot dragger

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    Its hard to be a Honda nut these days........But there are the hopeful
  17. tastroman

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    Add another rider who can not get past the feet forward controls.
  18. Foot dragger

    Foot dragger singletracker

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    Just say it,its a fancy scooter.
  19. ph0rk

    ph0rk Doesn't Care

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    You say scooter like it is a bad thing. Why is that?
  20. wpbarlow

    wpbarlow Long timer

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    Well, pretty much all the new bikes Honda has been announcing lately sure have "manageable" power :lol3

    I find it sad that Honda has been reduced to pretty much introducing new bikes that can best be described as they have been. :cry