2014 Subaru Forester vs 2013 Honda CRV

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  1. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    The new totally redesigned 2014 Subaru Forester is due in March 2013. Anyone have opinions as to how it will compare to the 2013 CRV? Lot's of information on the internet, but looking for opinions here. The Forester will have the CVT automatic transmission. :ear
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  2. fyrfytr

    fyrfytr B.U.F.F.

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    I just bought a 2013 since they were making room for '14's. The Subaru AWD system kicks ass. It's built from the ground up to be an AWD system. The Honda I don't know much about, except it's probably added on to a FWD system. The new engine has timing chains instead of a belt now, and is DOHC. Power is okay, but unless you get the turbo it's not fast by any means. Some are reporting oil consumption so that's something to be aware of. I like mine, it's got all kinds of room and I think it's quite comfortable.

    I've never really liked Hondas all that much. They were always rather bland to me. Steering way too vague, clutch way too light, etc. I know they are as reliable as a rock, but they never did anything for me. But I have always enjoyed European cars where you feel connected to the road. My Impreza felt like a European car. The Forester is lacking that a little bit, it feels more Japanesey to me. But build quality so far seems pretty good and if the reliability of my previous Impreza is an indication I'll have this one for a while. Good Luck with whatever you decide to get.

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  3. frazman

    frazman Post***ern Redneck.

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    Will prolly be a shit-ton better than my '11 Forester with the four-speed. Love the vehicle, starting to really despise the transmission. Thankfully it has the sport shifting mode...

    Any body style changes?
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  4. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    My opinion on CVTs.

    Hate them, wont buy another car with them.

    I bought a '10 Nissan Rogue. with a CVT. While the CVT was fine during the test drive, it has come to drive me crazy. It takes way to long to "down shift". Borderline dangerous if trying to pass a slow vehicle on a two lane road. If you have ever driven a manual with a slipping clutch, you'll know the feeling.

    The new Subie might be different. Give it a good hard work out before you buy it.

    BTW, I have a '10 Nissan Rouge for sale.:wink:
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  6. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    Yes, your complaint is common with the new CVT's. Apparently, that "slipping clutch" sensation is a characteristic of CVT's. It would take some getting used to, not doubt!
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    gec343 Been here awhile

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    I agree with your opinion that "Hondas seem bland". The Forester has character, where the Honda does not. Also, that oil usage on Foresters bothers me somewhat. Does your 2013 use oil??
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  8. gatling

    gatling Long timer

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    I have a Subaru and it is the finest car I've ever owned. We've owned Hondas and Acuras and they are fine cars, too, but they are boring in my opinion. I think you would be pleased with your decision if you purchased a Subie.
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    fyrfytr B.U.F.F.

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    So far no oil usage, but only 1000 miles so far. I will be monitoring it closely though.
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  10. Hannda

    Hannda Short, fat, bearded, slow

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    Unless they've made the CR-V much quieter, we own the 2008, go with the Subaru. Our Honda is a great car and will last many, many, miles but the road noise is offensive.
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    gec343 Been here awhile

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    Thanks for that information, but in 2012, Honda addressed that noise issue with the CRV. In fact, extreme road noise is why I'm selling my 2010 Pontiac Vibe AWD. I did test drive a 2013 CRV, minimal road noise.
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    fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger

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    I've spent a couple of hundred miles driving my bud's Outback with the CVT.:puke1 The crap-o-matic in my old Outback was better, and it was horrible for premature upshifts and delayed downshifts. Mine didn't have the sport shift as it was the pre 2005 generation car. The pussification of America has almost erased manual trans availability.:cry
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  13. falconati

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    If those are the only two options, get the Subie. If you're open to other options, the new Ford Escape redesign is awesome. I rented one for a week and could absolutely live with it.
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    I have a 2011 Outback with the CVT and like it. I never thought I would buy a CVT but they have come of age; 13,000 miles so far and am very happy with the decision. I really appreciate the CVT when using CC, no kick down on the slopes/hills, just smooth motoring.
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  15. Jurgen

    Jurgen Trolljegeren Super Moderator

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    Dated and dry, but it does show the differences in AWD if that matters to you.

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    and a bit easier viewing... :lol3

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    From what I've read (emphasis read not experienced) many of the 2013 CVTs are much improved over previous generations. But, that isn't Subarus. :lol3 and it seem like Suby often lags a bit in Transmissions.
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    We have an '11 Impreza (for another few days) and an'11 Outback. The CVT in the outback is great. Yeah it feels like the clutch is slipping when you stick your foot into it but that all goes away when you move the stick to "M" and use the paddle shifters. I really love that car but one thing I will say is a major turnoff is the road/engine noise. Both of them a very loud and I was really surprised the the two aren't much different considering one is a 5sp econobox and the other is a "Premium".

    The AWD system in these cars is fantastic. :clap
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    Rogue_Ryder 速 Flat Biller 速

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    I've been kicking around the idea of getting a New Forester, I like that you have the option for a Manual, nothing else has that option in its' "class". Reseal value for them around here is unbelievably high. Not sure if I totally dig the new styling over the old, seems like the CVT and sheetmetal are the biggest changes. I've driven the 1st gen Forester quite a bit and I really liked it a lot, I literally couldn't find any gripe about the car other than you have to hear everyone say "Nice Lezbaru" :D.
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    Never once have I or would I consider getting a CRV. A few people here at work have them and they are just butt ugly looking to me and have the stigma as being driven by middle aged cat ladies. I'm sure it's a reliable and capable automobile but no thanks.

    Pics of the new 2014 Rav-4 actually look surprisingly good especially since Toyota is normally the most bland of bland in terms of styling.
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    I think the 2014 Forest with the 6-speed manual will be kick-ass. Too bad you can't get it with a turbo, which comes with the automatic CVT only.

    First gear on the new Forester will be slightly lower than on the current 5-speed manual, and the 6th gear will be higher than the 5th gear on the current manual trans, so an ideal setup in my book.

    The RAV-4 was nice with the 6-cylinder, but they've discontinued that.

    I'm sure the Honda CRV is nice, but I really don't like the styling.
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    I guess there is no normal auto? Starting the shopping to replace the wifes minivan. I don't like cvt. Active cylinder management is also on my list of things to avoid. I just want a basic auto, normal old tech motor, leave all the latest gee wiz techno cap off it.
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    RockyRaccoon Found:Gideon's Bible

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    That's pretty cool
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