2014 Subaru Forester vs 2013 Honda CRV

Discussion in 'Shiny Things' started by gec343, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. skysailor

    skysailor Rat Rider

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    We had a 1998 Outback that would literally go anywhere! My wife's brand spanking new 2013, won't make it up our driveway. As soon as the TC kicks in, the thing becomes stationary. Here we have something called "traction" control, that we have to turn OFF to get any traction? Subaru had it right a decade ago, but just had to fuck with it???
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  2. EmmEff

    EmmEff Long timer

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    This isn't a "problem" limited to Subaru.

    FWIW, I run undersized wheels for my snow tires (16" vs. stock 17") on my WRX and there's still build up. My Honda Accord was the same... it's not a Subaru problem.

    First I've heard of it and we don't have a lack of Subarus around here in the snow belt on Ontario, Canada.
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  3. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    TC helps traction Except on ice. That's why there's an OFF switch
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  4. SourKraut

    SourKraut Long timer

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    Yes, I had neglected to defeat it which resulted in getting badly stuck. It is way too intrusive. Those of us that grew up driving in snow with none of the electronic "aids" have no trouble, if we remember to defeat the gizmo.
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  5. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    When I first bought my 2010 Pontiac Vibe AWD, I got the thing mired in deep snow. I was stranded in a remote area, which was not good. I had not been informed of the TC by the dealer, however, while sitting there wondering what to do, I decided to read the manual while waiting for assistance, plow truck, etc. That is how I discovered that the TC must be deactivated when stuck, etc. Once deactivated, the Vibe was no longer stuck!!
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  6. haines99

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    Just spent a very significant amount of time researching Subie's, CRV, CX5, RAV, etc. We wanted a small SUV we could live with at the best price. I have 5 other vehicles that cost me a fortune in gas - Tahoe, Jeep Wrangler, 4Runner, two Chevy 4x4 pickups. My primary goal on this one was reliability, gas mileage, reasonable features ... essentially basic transportation and out the door cost. Narrowed it down to CRV EX FWD and Forester Premium - not apples to apples comparison as the CRV does not have AWD. This is in line with what the OP is looking for.

    We liked the Forester better, and with AWD, styling, and features was the desired choice, but the major factor for us in deciding between this and the CRV was price. I used all the usual tools and methods to negotiate the price on both as low as I could (emailed internet managers for best price, truecar, Subaru partner price, etc). Got the CRV for $2400 cheaper than the Forester. Subaru dealers in Atlanta could not or would not deal on just the price factor between the 2 models.

    We really like the CRV, and as a value shopper this was the best choice for us.
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  7. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    A 10% difference in price is a big factor.
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  8. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    I sent emails to six Honda dealers within 100 miles. Received 5 responses. My bottom line price offered on the 2014 CRX EX-L w/navigation was $30,000 OTD with 6% Michigan sales tax included in price. All originally declined, saying they would be losing money. However, yesterday one dealer agreed to my price, which is good until 31 December. Opinions on that price, please? Man, this old age seems to make me indecisive, to say the least. Also, the vehicle, a Mountain Air color, was being delivered by truck today, so was not sitting on the lot, dealer trade, etc.
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  9. RedRocket

    RedRocket Yeah! I want Cheesy Poofs

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    Take it. It's OK to not suck absolutely every penny of profit out of a deal.
    You're doing more than good at that price.

    I sell Hondas.
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  10. falconati

    falconati baller

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    I'm confused...you asked them all to do the deal at a certain price and someone agreed...and now you don't want to do it? I don't mean to be rude, but that's a waste of their time. I did the same thing when buying my car, but once I got in the lowest price I called them up and closed the deal over the phone the same day.

    I tried to look a bit to figure out if that's a good deal or not. Looks like about 6% off the price, right? I'm presuming you were looking at the AWD version.
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  11. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    I do understand your point. However, when first contacted by that dealer, they said "no way, we'd be losing money". So at that point I honed in on a Subaru again, and pretty well eliminated the CRV. Yes, it is the AWD version.
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  12. YAHBO

    YAHBO Grip and rip since 1983

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    I have owned six Subarus. Currently a 98 Outback five speed. Nothing pulls in the snow like a Subaru.

    They don't get stuck. I don't mind the short geared transmission or the other rough edges.

    Traction trumps all.
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  13. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    I totally appreciate your input, RedRocket. Thanks much. I'm seriously considering your advice. I just wish they would have agreed to my price the first time offered, which would have simplified this whole deal.
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  14. Dranrab Luap

    Dranrab Luap E-Tarded Super Moderator

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    I don't think I have seen anyone without gray hair driving one. They might be bumping Buick off the top spot for oldest average owner age. They really ought to make them with turn signals that self cancel after a certain period of time.
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  15. gec343

    gec343 Been here awhile

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    Well, I'm "0ld", age 71, so should fit is well with the CRV. To be truthful, I find the CRV somewhat feminine in style. That bothers me a little. The Forester seems more masculine!!:D
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  16. Dranrab Luap

    Dranrab Luap E-Tarded Super Moderator

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    I don't know that I have ever seen a Subaru and masculine used in the same sentence.:D

    I really like that new Forester! If I didn't need a pick up, I'd have one. Reviews have been glowing so far, and as an old timer, you'll really appreciate the outstanding rear visibility on the Forester.
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  17. jackd

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    Buicks are still pretty popular with the grey haired crowd around here from what I notice - and there are a lot of grey haired folks where I live. Seeing as I am on the verge of joining that crowd, it would only be fitting that I focus my attention on the late model CRV as my upcoming vehicle. We just had our annual 1" of snow that we get over here in my neck of the woods on Southern Vancouver Island and so I feel confident that the superior snow capabilities of the Subaru will not be required.
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  18. Stobie

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    Around here it's Toyota. The Camry is the new LeSabre.
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  19. adam_c_eckhardt

    adam_c_eckhardt halfway there

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    $30,000 OTD for a car that's fresh off a truck, never test driven, etc, is a great deal. If you like the vehicle go for it before someone else farts in the seat.
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  20. EmmEff

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    Same around here too... I read something the other day that said the average age of a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry driver is between 50-60. I stupidly owned an Accord in my 30s :(