2014 Ural vs. 2013 R1200GSA

Discussion in 'Hacks' started by Zeid, Feb 10, 2014.

  1. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    You hit that one out of the Park Sancho my favorite.
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  2. JustKip

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    YOU KIDS, GET OUTTA MY YARD!

    You guys are crackin' me up! 200 miles in a single day? You should be able to do that on a pogo stick! Maybe I'm just not old enough for this sidecar stuff. But really, Craig, you're only 2 years older than me(I'm 57)...we went to different schools together. I routinely do 400 miles a day on 2 wheels, occasionally twice that. Will a sidecar really cut that by 50% or more?
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  3. davebig

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    Until you get on to how to ride one they are much slower than a 2 wheeler and you can cut your distance back a bit.It's about learning to allow the rigs tendencies to help with the turning
    Significant others may want to stop and look, in the MIssissppi river valley its easy to ride 5 hrs and only find you've covered less than 200 miles, during the Ag season you may meet a tractor or combine and one of you is turning around.DB
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  4. Bobmws

    Bobmws Curmudgeon At Large

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    I've done 600 miles in 12 hours, destination rides. And 300 miles in 10 hours, sightseeing with lots of stops.
    It depends on what the day's schedule is, but distance is definitely doable.
    Consideration for riding partner, human or canine will always be a factor.
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  5. windmill

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    I've done 400 miles in a 8 hours alone, and less than 200 miles in over 10 hours with the wife.
    If I'm alone I can just get on and go like when I drove longhaul. With the wife, It's hard to do more than an hour at a time before she sees something to stop for, comfort isn't an issue.
    There's no doubt if I wanted to do a lot of miles on the freeway on a regular basis, a Ural would not be my first choice, and from what most folks say that would go for sidecars in general.
    I'm sure some will claim otherwise, but there are reasons sidecars are such a rare beast. :deal
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  6. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    You guys seem to have read into the 200 miles in a day wrong. I never said I was tired, that was the Geezer who put those words into play. I said:
    Let me simplify a couple of things; 80 to 100 miles in the hills and twisties in Ventura county on a Ural seems like an adventure. The adventure was not a physical challenge, but rather an avdenture as to why the fuck is it taking so long and do I really have to stop for fuel already style of an adventure. What at one time was an all day Ural adventure, is now only a small part of (less than 1/2) of a day with everyone involved happy. No physical challenge, was ever brought up or intended by me. Not racing and not pushing, a nice even steady pace, with a case of wine in the trunk.

    The first trip taken on the rig (Pic shown in my above post) was started at noon the day Dauntless finished the installation. I took the rig directly to Seatac where I picked up SWMBO who had flown in to ride home with me and we headed south along the coast to Lincoln City, OR for a first day of 270 miles. The second day was down to Fort Bragg, Ca for a nice 470 mile day along the coast. The final day was from Fort Bragg to home along the 101 was a bit of a long one at 550 miles in around 13 hours including all stops.

    The biggest drama of that trip was the stock GSA seat pinching my ball sack causing the same type of pain you Uralistas do for many of us around here. Much more endurance is needed to put up with the Barnones and Windmills around here who fail to have a sense of humor than riding a Ural (or anything else for that matter).
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  7. norton(kel)

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    Oh my Dog!----Just go ride already :lol3
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  8. Montague

    Montague UDF Adventurer

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    He would, but the GSA had the dreaded Beemer seal leak............:rofl

    Just kidding, they all work and they all break, don't much matter what decal is on the tank.

    Ride my little winged monkeys, ride! To paraphrase a line from the great movie Spaceballs, Ride 'em if ya got 'em!

    Speaking of which, the longer days and slowly retreating glaciers here have me thinking of pulling the rig out of the underground bunker and driving it!
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  9. Bar None

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    WeakBad,
    You said "We would take the Ural out on the weekends and do 80 to 100 mile "rides" in the hills around Ventura County California and like I said by the time you got home you felt like you had been on an adventure. "
    Kinda sounds like you were saying you were worn out after a 100 mile ride on your Ural.
    And then to brag about doing 200 miles on your new rig.Wow. Superman.
    Call me a Geezer if you want but you are one weak person. Might be too late for any gym work. I feel sorry for you.
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  10. redtails

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    While all these are interesting arguments, it's no more significant than coke vs pepsi. I happen to have a new '14 Ural along with my other motorcycles, so I guess I've not really established a bias.

    I've been riding a long time and one thing I've noticed is, while some people may change brands, their conviction of correctness never does.

    One's choice of what they ride can not be measured on a spec sheet, that's why in arguments like these, no one wins. Especially since we all have more in common than our differences based on what we ride. A motorcycle, two or three wheels, moves you inside long before you click it into gear. And if you ride, you're my friend. :thumb
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  11. Mikehusa

    Mikehusa Been here awhile

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    +1
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  12. windmill

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    It's a shame that some feel the need to qualify their preferences with gratuitous negativity about others.

    I get lots of folks asking me about sidecars, I don't make any sales pitches, if their interest is specifically about Urals I share why I prefer them and refer them to the two area Ural dealers. If their intrest is in Harleys I tell them about Liberty in Seattle and mention DMC Enumclaw. If their interest is in BMW's or UJM's I refer them to DMC.
    I guess I'm biased in that I refer them to local vendors, but that's it, I feel no need to validate my preferences to them and certainly wouldn't want to talk someone into the wrong rig, or out of the right one.

    Internet forums are a great source of information if one uses a little bit of common scene and judgment when considering the source. Unfortunately the internet emboldens some to say things they wouldn't IRL.
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  13. Wolfgang55

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    Interesting how Ural is the greatest for some & well…not so great for others.

    So guys, what else is NOT news.

    If you guys ever bumped into the other(s) & knew not who you were talking with, bet the fact that you all are side car riders would cement a relationship.
    Not talking about swapping spit buds here.

    Take it easy here. Just reread your post before you hit SEND….that might just be enough to get something out of your system.:deal

    Just so you know where I stand on different sidecars…..I want them all. So does Carson.
    Their differences means I can select the right tool for my style of FUN for that day or where ever I am headed, w/ Carson.
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  14. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Wolfie is the voice of reason .This is not Coke vs Pepsi, the BMW is the king of luxury adv tourers, the Ural is a very handy off the shelf sidecar adv machine. I hate big motorcycles for short trips, I'd use the Ural for that, or get a light bike with allot of carrying capacity.DB
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  15. Wolfgang55

    Wolfgang55 Long timer

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    If an owner/rider post up something they don't like about a side car brand or builder….so what.

    Is this really an attack on someones manhood, just because that someone happens to own that brand or has a built rig etc ?

    We ride hacks for fun. Try not to hack up another owner/rider just cause they don't seem to meet your ''higher of standards for ownership'' by posting what they learned about their expectation from their choice of sidecar(s)/rigs.

    Ask yourself, if you would get out of your comfort zone & go out to help a fellow rider of sidecars that you just flamed ?

    Or would you want that taget of your flaming to help you out of a real jam ?
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  16. Strong Bad

    Strong Bad n00balicious

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    Being one of the few posting in this thread that actually owned a Ural and now has a R1200GSA based rig, I kind of figured that I would be qualified to speak on the option of hacking his R1200GSA. Looks like giving my experience based personal opinion caused the Uralistas to get their panties in a bunch and now combined with a lack of a sense of humor, combined poor reading and comprehension skills, I'm a weak and idiotic former Ural owner. Funny thing is, I believe that I said that riding the Ural was a nice adventure, and adventure (I also did say that they were clunky). I don't see anything calling them a complete POS or that the OP should not by one.

    SWMBO claims I get like this at times:

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    While it must be true to a certain extent, I'll admit to having typed out more than one response in this thread and then never hitting "Submit Reply".

    Now, I'm pretty thick skinned guy and I don't have a problem holding my own in interweb disputes. I also tend to stir the pot at times. I offer my apologies to the OP and you others for getting caught up in trying to correct the foil heads and for getting them stirred up.
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  17. Bar None

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    100 mile Ural rider, 200 mile BMW rig rider, Strong Bad, you are a joke. :rofl:rofl:rofl
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  18. davebig

    davebig Another Angry Hun !

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    Oops your exaggerate needs or attention have got out of control again !
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  19. Bar None

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    You the moderator or what?:huh
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