2014 Yamaha Triple: FZ-09 / MT-09

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by Paulvt1, May 31, 2013.

  1. inroads

    inroads Wimberley,Texas

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    Thank goodness not fly-by-wire up to the throttle.Leaves Jo-blo adj. I noticed rad fan came on @ 221 then temp rose 2 degrees then started dropping @ 4 degree increments. Nice!
  2. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    Any new owner able to check their owner's manual and see if the adjustment procedure is there? No copies of the FZ or MT -09 could I find on the interweb information highway....
  3. FOXedupONE

    FOXedupONE Momafox can I ride?

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    Manual does not cover valve adjust. I thought I read somewhere it's nut adjusted and not shims.
  4. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    I heard it was nut adjusted also. Anything about throttle adjustment in there? Went to my dealer, Mancuso SW, earlier today, and still no FZ-09's.

    They are also a Triumph dealer and didn't have any Street Triples on the floor, either.

    Only Triumph and Yamaha models not available to peruse and compare... Kinda strange, for a dealer that large. Possibly waiting for the 14 ST to arrive. tp
  5. Scoobynut

    Scoobynut Been here awhile

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    Only need to adjust it at the handlebar, if it's like my S10; and it should be as it too is ride-by-wire with cable at the throttle.
  6. Scoobynut

    Scoobynut Been here awhile

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    On my S10, the adjusters are about 2-1/2 inches downstream of what you're showing in this photo. Look down the line a ways.
  7. Mr.Black999

    Mr.Black999 Been here awhile

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    It appears to be shim under bucket like most modern Yamaha's.

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  8. Croak

    Croak Been here awhile

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    Ride By Wire mean anything to you? The throttle tube is essentially a rheostat connected to the ECU via a wire, there ain't no cable. :)

    Also, here's the EU MT-09 accessories site, which has better pictures of the gear actually mounted on the bike, for example:

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  9. FOXedupONE

    FOXedupONE Momafox can I ride?

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    There it is, thanks! It was hiding under sheathing cover. Only see one cable adjuster so far maybe the other does not need one or it's buried further up the cable behind the headlight. Oh the throttle is definitely cable operated beyond the twist grip with a conventional 2 cable throttle system. What the cable operated is different from acting directly on plates but the cables and spring are what makes it mechanically feel the same as conventional. It would be hard to recreate the feel of a regular throttle with just an electrical wire coming from the twist grip to send a signal I'd imagine so there most definitely are cables regardless of ride by wire the wire does not start at the twist grip but at the potentiometer.
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  10. GrahamD

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    The theory with this is that it allows a more robust system and cheaper (for the dealer) to replace bit's in the case of an accident. Whether it is cheaper for the customer is another matter.

    The potentiometer is hidden out of the way from rain, possible drops and general debris (acidic bug juice) and doesn't get impacted in a fall.

    That's the theory. The Japanese manufacturers, to date, have been pretty serious about this reliability thing. They will take small steps from a known reliable system to an unknown as the data comes in.

    The other reason just might be that it feels familiar AND it allows the use of pre existing throttle bar end parts that can be used in carb, simple EFI and YCCT set ups.

    Once the data is in on the Pot on the bar and most systems have moved to YCCT I would say that it will probably change But the average consumer will not let the Japanese do unreliable bikes. It is just the way it is.
  11. Scoobynut

    Scoobynut Been here awhile

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    There IS a cable upstream from the throttle bodies, the ride-by-wire mechanism begins just before the F.I. throttle bodies as I understand it, so a mix of the two. That is how my Super Tenere is set up. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, and try not to be as snide as Croak while doing so. Also see previous post showing the cable adjuster -- just as it is on my S10...
  12. Scoobynut

    Scoobynut Been here awhile

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    That's correct, FOXed, you only need adjust the one (input?) as I believe the return cable is not adjustable. Once you tighten it up, you will need only be conscious of rolling off the throttle a tiny bit more when shifting, but it becomes second nature quickly.
  13. Tripletreat

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    I had a brief test ride on the one and only '09 the dealer had. Man, what a rocket! Despite having read the rave reviews in the MC press, I was gobsmacked by the power of the engine. It's got huge ponies everywhere, and it's dead smooth, too. I found the gear change notchy, but with a bike with essentially zero miles....
    The suspension and brakes are very impressive, especially at the bike's price point, but I admit I rode it on good pavement only. The only problem I can pin point is the saddle. It's not the bike's best feature, being hard, and slanting forward in such a way as to really punish my boys there in front. I'm well over 6 ft tall, so this may not be something shorter riders have issues with. Were I to buy the bike though, I'd have a custom saddle made immediately.
    Yamaha has a real winner with this model. It's a great motorcycle and will require a lot of self-control of the rider if he/she is gonna keep outta the hands of the law. It's a hooligan bike of the first order!
  14. dirtdreamer50

    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    I recently traded off my Duke 690, because it too was a hooligan bike, and I knew I was gonna lose my license it it didn't go. Now I'm considering a bike where the power to wt ratio is 50% better than what just left the garage. I think i'm in deeeeeep dodo, here....tp
  15. cls

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    I'm certainly not the technically minded guy but I know pulling the sub-throttle plates on the ZX14's, Connie 14's, and other bikes makes for a stronger and smoother power delivery. I don't want to have to start all that stuff w/this bike. However, if it would solve the problem...Exhaust, fly removal, PC and map. Somebody w/one play w/it.
  16. andruboz

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    the luggage appears to be the "Bags-Connection Blaze Sport Saddlebag System" as sold by twistedthrottle.com. I didn't see it for the fz09 on their website so that just means yamaha already designed their own stand-off rod for the bags and twisted throttle still doesn't have any delivered from their machinist/fabricator yet.

    they want $344 including the rods for other bikes[fz1 &fz8].
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    dirtdreamer50 long time rider

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    With the ending of production of XR1200, maybe AMA will open a racing class series for the 09 in the future. Other than that I can't see the expense of all cls' mentioned changes, when, in stock form, it is already hard to keep the front end on the ground, and over 90-100 mph, the wind blast is going to make the ride unenjoyable anyway. To each his own, though.

    Raining here, but happy riding to all who can,today. tp
  18. Croak

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    That probably means the tank bag is also a SW-Motech/Bags Connection piece as well, which bodes well for the quality (and it's tank ring system too). On further inspection, the frame sliders and kickstand extension look like SW-Motech bits too.

    And Giles and Harris are making some of the billet pieces in the MT-09 accessory catalog as well.

    Keep in mind Twisted Throttle is just a distributor for SW-Motech/Bags Connection, they don't make the stuff themselves, they just get it shipped in from Germany.
  19. cls

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    Owners, what are you getting for gas mileage in normal commuting? Read that as (sort of) trying to get good mpg's.

    Thanks.
  20. juun

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    I was hoping to add one of these to the garage but the $2200 insurance quote will make me pass for a while. :cry I guess street triple is my best bet now.