2015-16 Legislative Bills Related to Motorcycles/Motorcyclists

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  1. Trinity_Session

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    Do you think with the extra revenue attached to it might change their minds @tod701 ?
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    It would take a lot of revenue . . . .
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    Really if we had a lobby I'd note they savings in the amount of space on the road a bike takes vs. a car.
    Aka for every car you take off the road in favor of a bike you reduce congestion by X at no cost, & it gets better and more likely with lane splitting.
    Also a bike does 0 damage to the road beyond weathering vs a car, or truck (the heavier the more) so with what they're charging us for tabs it's all positive cash flow for 'em in reduced road wear and tear.
    And of course when the weather goes to hell it's likely a reasonable percentage (those that could) would divert to public transport, which they like to push..

  4. tod701

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    Grant Nelson lobbies on behalf of the Northwest Motorcycle Association and Larry Walker on behalf of the Washington Road Riders Association.

    I dabble in that sport too.

    They are both very aware of the issue and the positive impacts. We know exactly where the legislative roadblocks are and are seeking solutions, but some of the opposition have no intention of changing their position regardless of the logic presented.
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    With a single political party controlling the State house of Representatives, State Senate, Governor’s Office, State Attorney General and State Supreme Court there is no longer an effective system of checks and balances to keep the state government in compliance with the State Constitution or the laws as codified.
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    Washington in the rear view January 11
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    Add to the list in my previous post, the Washington State Auditor, Superintendent of Public Instruction, Insurance Commissioner and Commissioner of Public Lands.
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    So, just like the Federal government?
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    Headed where?
  13. tod701

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    A so called "carbon tax" will come first.

    The Governor's proposal has included a 22 cent a gallon tax on gas.
    And the revenue would not go to road puropose so it would be a violation of Washtington State Constitution Article II, Section 40.
    When confronted about the constitutionality of the tax, there is little outward concern since they have the Washington State Supreme Court already in the parties back pocket.
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    Got a place in the North Georgia mountains. Little town called Dahlonega surrounded by national forest land.
    I've enjoyed the democratic values for the working person, but the tax and spend thing is for real and out of control.
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    I hear ya.

    nothing some won't try to do with other people's money.
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    There's a well used and often cited Dutch study that shows many of these figures. I seem to remember there was a 15 or 20% reduction on congestion just by allowing motorcycles to split and filter - and that's just with existing bikes used. If more riders that owned bikes did the same, that number only increases.

    A bit of Google-fu should find it easily.

    Eff that and eff Oregon for implementing such a thing.

    Our roads aren't safe because mouth-breathers drive, willingly, 45 mph on the interstate. And they cannot and will not merge properly. Further, penalizing hard acceleration and judicious use of brakes isn't the answer. It only hastens the shitty driving we experience here.

    The real issue is shitty or non-existent driver training.
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    I spoke with senator Mark Mullett last year after the voting. He said he voted against it because of the State Patrol safety reports citing more motorcyclist deaths if lane filtering was allowed.

    When I watched the videos of the testimonies there was a big issue. Both the helmet bill and the filtering bill were spoken about at the same time. Even I was confused sometimes because the issues were muddled together. There are completely different safety issues for these bills.

    Hopefully this year they can be discussed completely separate.
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    I suspect that train wreck of scheduling and testimony was intentional (and as someone representing our sport before the Legislature, was totally embarrassing).